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    Posted: 05 August 2008 at 8:11pm
since we apparently can't put people on death row and actually kill them, and for those who confess to things they do and just get time, i thought of something. well, i sort of ripped off an idea and let it snowball in my head a little.

die hard with a vengeance- the cop has to stand on street corner in harlem. with a sign that says "i hate *racial term for black people*"

so. what if we take convicted and confessed criminals and make them do that? i think it would be interesting.
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So what.  When the black people kill them, they have to hold up the sign too?
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Vendetta.  That's the best form of punishment.
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It's called Scarlet Letter punishment, it's used on small, petty crimes but it's usually appealed as unconstitutional. 
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send them into space without a suit.... or make a bottomless pit to push them all into
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Yeah..so they get killed, then the killer picks up the sign, gets killed, etc?

Actually....might be a good way to clean up the ghetto...
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

...for those who confess to things they do ...

You should know that false confession is considered by most experts to be the second leading cause of the conviction of innocent people.

A confession alone is not particularly persuasive.
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What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?


Because many criminals aren't civilized.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?


Civilized != flawless
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Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:


Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?
Because many criminals aren't civilized.


And here I was thinking that we were supposed to be better people than criminals.

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?


Civilized != flawless


Indeed. Nothing is perfect. I don't get the point though.
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I say we eliminate all prisons on North America and send the prisoners to Antartica.
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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

...for those who confess to things they do ...

You should know that false confession is considered by most experts to be the second leading cause of the conviction of innocent people.

A confession alone is not particularly persuasive.


good sir;

i of course, refer to those who go in depth explanations of killing innocent persons; and their torture that preceded their death. charles manson comes to mind
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:


Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?
Because many criminals aren't civilized.


And here I was thinking that we were supposed to be better people than criminals.

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

What's so wrong with just having a civilized justice system?


Civilized != flawless


Indeed. Nothing is perfect. I don't get the point though.


Vigilante justice is just more...fun
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

i of course, refer to those who go in depth explanations of killing innocent persons; and their torture that preceded their death. charles manson comes to mind

False confessions are false regardless of how indepth they are or how much torture they describe.

Confessions that are obviously false do not typically lead to conviction.  The good ones are all believeable.  That is why false confession is a leading cause of wrongful conviction.
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This thread sucks.

Everyone has either posted something stupid, or high and mighty.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

This thread sucks.Everyone has either posted something stupid, or high and mighty.


I like that the new codename for intelligent is "high and mighty."

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

This thread sucks.Everyone has either posted something stupid, or high and mighty.


I like that the new codename for intelligent is "high and mighty."



I think he was referring more to the people who claim the moral high ground and assume that anyone who disagrees with them must be occupying the less stellar depths of morality.


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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

This thread sucks.Everyone has either posted something stupid, or high and mighty.


I like that the new codename for intelligent is "high and mighty."



I think he was referring more to the people who claim the moral high ground and assume that anyone who disagrees with them must be occupying the less stellar depths or morality.



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