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    Posted: 27 May 2010 at 9:24am
Evidently...
 
A ton.
 
 
 
 
Major props for doing something about the corruption in Washington, that allows the government to leave our boarders unsecured for criminals to cross in this way day after day.
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Damn illegals. I lost my job picking lettuce because of them.

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Why can't they just do it the legal way, Benji, like the rest of us did?




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How long would my prison sentence be if I were in caught in Mexico illegally?  
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Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:

How long would my prison sentence be if I were in caught in Mexico illegally?  
 
 
 
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I think it's incredibly ironic that illegals provide an important labor source, yet people want to stem the flow of illegals.  Furthermore, what happened to supply and demand, FE?  I thought you were for less regulation, why doesn't that apply to immigration?
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

I think it's incredibly ironic that illegals provide an important labor source, yet people want to stem the flow of illegals.  Furthermore, what happened to supply and demand, FE?  I thought you were for less regulation, why doesn't that apply to immigration?

I'm pretty convinced FE isn't necessarily opposed to an Orwellian society; just one that doesn't match his politics.
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Character matters.
 
breaking the law to enter the country is a crime...
 
 
Because all too often, people that do that, will break other laws as well, and society suffers from the impact of that lawlessness.
 
for example...
 
 
 
oh, the irony
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"People are talking about immigration, emigration and the rest of the <KRL> thing. It's all <KRL>crap. We're all human beings, we're all mammals, we're all rocks, plants, rivers. <KRL>borders are just such a pain in the <KRL> arse." 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Character matters.
 
breaking the law to enter the country is a crime...
 
 
Because all too often, people that do that, will break other laws as well, and society suffers from the impact of that lawlessness.

This of course assumes that having a bad character is a causal effect of breaking the law.

Normally I'd say that I think we can agree that breaking a law and being a bad person aren't analogous, but with you, FE, I suppose I should make sure. Can we agree that character and lawfulness don't always go hand in hand?
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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

[QUOTE=FreeEnterprise]Character matters.
 
breaking the law to enter the country is a crime...
 
Because all too often, people that do that, will break other laws as well, and society suffers from the impact of that lawlessness.


Whaaa wait a minute here....

This is coming from the same person who within the past month admitted to committing a crime. 

Good job randomly characterizing millions of people to the actions of a small minority.
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

 Furthermore, what happened to supply and demand, FE?

Open immigration is, at its core, a supply-demand creation of pure capitalism. 

Of course, FE is a part-time, or convenient capitalist. 
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Originally posted by God God wrote:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

[QUOTE=FreeEnterprise]Character matters.
 
breaking the law to enter the country is a crime...
 
Because all too often, people that do that, will break other laws as well, and society suffers from the impact of that lawlessness.


Whaaa wait a minute here....

This is coming from the same person who within the past month admitted to committing a crime. 

Good job randomly characterizing millions of people to the actions of a small minority.
prove it...
 
No where would it have stood up in court as a crime. They were clearly trying to "scare" me into not getting them in trouble with homeland security.
 
People wear wigs all the time to get ccw permits, they are called toupee's. And NOT ONE would be forced to remove it.
 
So I think you need to rethink your argument...
 
Wearing a wig to a ccw permit picture, is nothing like coming into the country illegally and then staying here and breaking more laws along the way.
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I went to high school with a number of illegal immigrants, all of whom were just fine.  I seriously doubt the number of illegal immigrants committing crimes is statistically different from the number of regular old Americans doing the same.

Regardless, the point is that it's pretty clear immigration laws need to be changed, and the issue isn't the people coming here to provide cheap labor, it is the people smuggling drugs across the border.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

 Furthermore, what happened to supply and demand, FE?

Open immigration is, at its core, a supply-demand creation of pure capitalism. 

Of course, FE is a part-time, or convenient capitalist. 
 
 
wrong. what is the unemployment for LEGAL residents today?
 
come on, the liberal talking points just don't hold water to this type of reasoning.
 
They are illegal, they are breaking the law, the government has an obligation to protect the boarders.
 
If they do get a job, they are breaking more laws, as they have to show real id to get said job. And most FAKE that id...
 
another law broken,
 
most don't pay taxes... similar to timmy gietner... which liberals are so fond of... So I guess not paying taxes is a good thing if  you are working for the man...
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

 it is the people smuggling drugs across the border.

Who should be treated and viewed differently than people trying to get here to make a better life. 


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:


 
Because all too often, people that do that, will break other laws as well, and society suffers from the impact of that lawlessness.


Originally posted by The article The article wrote:

Wadsworth argues not only that “cities with the largest increases in immigration between 1990 and 2000 experienced the largest decreases in homicide and robbery,” which we knew, but that after considering all the other explanations, rising immigration “was partially responsible.”


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

 Furthermore, what happened to supply and demand, FE?

Open immigration is, at its core, a supply-demand creation of pure capitalism. 

Of course, FE is a part-time, or convenient capitalist. 
 
Derp derp derp. 

You didn't actually bring up any statement to refute being a part-time capitalist. 

Why don't you let the free market decide where they get their labor from? Why impose costly restrictions on them by not letting them use this convenient cheap labor? 

Why do you hate free enterprise, Free Enterprise? 
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why would I refute words that I never said?...
 
strawman much?
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