Tippmann Paintball Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Paintball Equipment > Upgrades and Customizing
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

valve

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
98sniper View Drop Down
Member
Member

Stike 1: Flaming

Joined: 10 January 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 644
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 98sniper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: valve
    Posted: 01 September 2004 at 12:39am
i want to make my operating pressure lower and i was thinking about like putting in a new valve pin or putting a o ring in the valves hole. has n e one done this.
98c
x chamber
revi 12vlt w/x

bko
halo tsa backman
shocktech drop

soon to get
e orracle
crossfire tank
boomstic
kaner kit
egg 2 w/z board
Back to Top
FROG MAN View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar
Strike 1- Language, 11/29/09

Joined: 31 July 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 4185
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FROG MAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 12:41am
dont think it would work. just make your velocity lower.
<1 meg sig = bad>
Back to Top
98sniper View Drop Down
Member
Member

Stike 1: Flaming

Joined: 10 January 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 644
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 98sniper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 12:44am
but that doesn't make your operating pressure lower
98c
x chamber
revi 12vlt w/x

bko
halo tsa backman
shocktech drop

soon to get
e orracle
crossfire tank
boomstic
kaner kit
egg 2 w/z board
Back to Top
maroon out View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar
Not "moron" - Geez!

Joined: 10 January 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1681
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maroon out Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 8:39am
The only way to lower your operatiing pressure is to use a regulator.
Watch your thoughts they become words
Watch your words they become actions
Watch your actions they become habits
Watch your habits they become character
Watch your character it becomes your destin
Back to Top
SnakeEyes View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 15 December 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 1097
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SnakeEyes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 8:50am
So how would putting a valve pin or an o-ring in the valve make it lower pressure? All stuffing an o-ring in there would do is restrict your airflow giving you more chance of shootdown instead of lowering the pressure.
Which falls faster, a lead ball or your IQ after reading some of these posts?

PSU Paintball

Back to Top
TrippiN View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: 24 October 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 331
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TrippiN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 9:47am
^ he's right.. regulator is the only way to go low pressure..
Spyder Imagine 2k4
---
-14" Custom barrel
-DOP Xcore 8stage X Chamber
-DOP Bullet Drop
-12v Revvy w/x board
----
Back to Top
warbeak2099 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar
So I said, "That is my foot!"

Joined: 10 June 2002
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote warbeak2099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 10:36am
A regulator will not lower your operating pressure. It will only maintain a consistant pressure. If you have a low pressure valve, then yes you can set the reg to a lower pressure. But it isn't doing anything to lower your operating/cycling pressure. A regulator has nothing to do with the internal workings of your gun so it wouldn't affect what pressure your gun needs to operate. Do not just get a regulator and adjust it down. It won't change the fact that the stock CVX valve needs about 800psi to operate. All that will do is starve your valve and get major shootdown.

Either get the LP Valve from the LP Kit (you can get it seperate from some places), or get the LP spring from the LP Valve and put it in your stock valve. You can also mill out the inside channels of the valve to get a higher flow rate. But you'd really need to know exactly what to carve out. Anyone know of a how to guide for a homemade lp kit/valve? I remember I saw one before but i can't remember where.    

Edited by warbeak2099
MIDN 2/C, US Navy

LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II
Back to Top
TRAVELER View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member

Vulcan Logic Academy Graduate

Joined: 30 January 2004
Location: Japan
Status: Offline
Points: 1503
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TRAVELER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 11:18am

There's too much involved in trying to lower your operating pressure without the lp kit. The valve has to be modified to allow a larger, low pressure volume of air, the hammer must be replaced with one of a lighter weight, and a different mainspring would also be needed.

I suppose anyone with a degree in engineering and access to a machine shop could knock one out easily enough, but Tippmann did that for us already by making an lp kit.

For I will wander to and fro,
I'll go where I no one do know,
Back to Top
maroon out View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar
Not "moron" - Geez!

Joined: 10 January 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1681
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maroon out Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 11:51am
Originally posted by warbeak2099 warbeak2099 wrote:

A regulator will not lower your operating pressure.


Um, yes it will.

Changing the valve spring and opening the channels on your valve for more air flow, will ALLOW you to lower the pressure and keep the same velocity, but you'll need a regulator to actually lower the pressure.
Watch your thoughts they become words
Watch your words they become actions
Watch your actions they become habits
Watch your habits they become character
Watch your character it becomes your destin
Back to Top
Giblet View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 21 August 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 81
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Giblet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 3:14pm

Originally posted by maroon out maroon out wrote:

Originally posted by warbeak2099 warbeak2099 wrote:

A regulator will not lower your operating pressure.


Um, yes it will.

Changing the valve spring and opening the channels on your valve for more air flow, will ALLOW you to lower the pressure and keep the same velocity, but you'll need a regulator to actually lower the pressure.

 

i think warbeak was thinking about an expansion chamber

Back to Top
SnakeEyes View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 15 December 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 1097
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SnakeEyes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by Giblet Giblet wrote:

i think warbeak was thinking about an expansion chamber



I highly doubt that.

What I believe warbeak meant was that just by slapping a reg on your Tippmann you can't make it low pressure. The stock valve is designed to work at 700PSI+. If you drop the pressure down too much not enough air will escape the valve, your velocity will suffer severly and the blowback won't be sufficient to recock the gun.
Which falls faster, a lead ball or your IQ after reading some of these posts?

PSU Paintball

Back to Top
98sniper View Drop Down
Member
Member

Stike 1: Flaming

Joined: 10 January 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 644
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 98sniper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2004 at 4:44pm
 well nn did this to his gun and he said it helped alot, he just made some custom pin or bought one so it would seal better in there. but im going to buy a lpk i was just trying to figure out what other things there r to do i have a lil more knowledge about this.
98c
x chamber
revi 12vlt w/x

bko
halo tsa backman
shocktech drop

soon to get
e orracle
crossfire tank
boomstic
kaner kit
egg 2 w/z board
Back to Top
warbeak2099 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar
So I said, "That is my foot!"

Joined: 10 June 2002
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote warbeak2099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 9:19am
That's what I meant. A reg alone will not lower the operating pressure of your gun. It will only set a certain input pressure and keep it stable. The pressure that you can set it at depends on your gun's operating pressure. In any circumstance a regulator does not make your gun run at a lower pressure, it just lowers the input pressure. Input and operating pressure are two very different things. A reg will never lower your operating pressure. That's what this guy wants to lower. He'll need either an LP kit or some custom mods. You don't need a degree in engineering to do the mods, you just need to be confident with drilling out your valve. I'd just buy the LP kit. Get em on ebay for like 80-100.      
MIDN 2/C, US Navy

LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II
Back to Top
vftactical2 View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 23 August 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 388
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote vftactical2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 10:35am
what ever happened to lpk kit just slap that on your 98 or a-5
vf tactical, tactical kaner kit, worrgames unimount, evolution hopper,and pmi 3000psi tank,shocktech beaver tail,e2 frame,
Back to Top
98c - baller View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1145
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 98c - baller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 1:41pm
its poop ^^^^^^^
Back to Top
warbeak2099 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar
So I said, "That is my foot!"

Joined: 10 June 2002
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote warbeak2099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 4:47pm
Actually the LPK is a really great upgrade. It really improves almost all performance aspects of the marker. And if you can even better modify the LPK valve, then it's even better. Poop is a 21" barrel. LPK is more like a philly cheesesteak sandwich...
MIDN 2/C, US Navy

LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II
Back to Top
98sniper View Drop Down
Member
Member

Stike 1: Flaming

Joined: 10 January 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 644
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 98sniper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 6:18pm

*ummm philly cheesesteak sandwich ummm*

 and some people drill out the hole on the vertical adapter to 3/16 or wat ever it is, well what does that do just make the flow better.

98c
x chamber
revi 12vlt w/x

bko
halo tsa backman
shocktech drop

soon to get
e orracle
crossfire tank
boomstic
kaner kit
egg 2 w/z board
Back to Top
Silent Slayer View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 27 July 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 224
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Silent Slayer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2004 at 8:50pm
yea it just increases airflow
a5 polished internals
flatline
custom aluminum foregrip
drop
e grip w/custom blade trigger
palmer stabalizer
71ci 4500psi dye throttle
dye invisions
vision impy
tapeworm
crossfire 88/45
EVO
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.422 seconds.