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    Posted: 14 October 2004 at 5:42pm
Is the J&J ceramic barrel a good barrel upgrade to replace the stock barrel on my model 98 tippmann.
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yeah they are decent but there are better barrels

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Indefinatly

Accuracy is great
it is super quiet
and it cleans itself out if for some reason you do chop a ball
Oh and for its price it is a steal
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does the J&J cermaic barrels screw right on teh model 98 or do u need to get a barrel adapter
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any new 98 barrel is designed to fit in the 98 and 98c. the two guns do have different threads, but the newer barrels will fit both.
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Yes. I own the Ceramic and it is a great barrel.
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Yeah, great barrels, you should get one.  I don't know why people keep saying to get a Lapco Bigshot over the Ceramic though, when the Bigshot has no definate advantages over the Ceramic.  
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I want a new barrel preferably the Ceramic, but i was wondering what size could i get to be able to have rapid fire plus decent accuracy.  Or can i have only one or the other.  Also i will mostly play woodsball maybe occasionally speed ball.
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i dont want to tell you to get anything you dont want but flatlines are really good for woodsball also like u said the ceramic is good and bigshot. if you want to spend more money evil pipe kits are dope.
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Originally posted by rapidshooter rapidshooter wrote:

I want a new barrel preferably the Ceramic, but i was wondering what size could i get to be able to have rapid fire plus decent accuracy.  Or can i have only one or the other.  Also i will mostly play woodsball maybe occasionally speed ball.


I would reccomend a 12" over a 14" then, roughly about the same accuracy as a 14", but just a very small bit less, wouldn't be noticeable with the accuracy difference.  It would be good for snap shooting, which you could be doing in both speedball and woodsball.
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I own both the bigshot and the ceramic. Both are cheap and accurate but I think the bigshot is just a little more accurate than the ceramic. It's not a huge difference but it's enough for me to prefer the bigshot. For example, let's say the bigshot lands 8 out of 10 on target in a given situation, the ceramic would probably land 7 out of 10. Not a huge difference but since I have both and can use whichever I want, I go for the bigshot. However, I'm not in tears if I have to use the ceramic, I still have great results with it. I actually use the ceramic on my SL-68II with a low power scope when I'm messing around doing target practice and it works pretty good. Sometimes it shoots dead on target and other times it's just a little off but it's generally pretty close to what I'm aiming for. Most other barrels are not much better but are significantly more expensive so I would recommend sticking to one of these two but this is your gun and your money so you make the call.
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Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

I own both the Bigshot and the ceramic. Both are cheap and accurate but I think the Bigshot is just a little more accurate than the ceramic. It's not a huge difference but it's enough for me to prefer the Bigshot. For example, let's say the Bigshot lands 8 out of 10 on target in a given situation, the ceramic would probably land 7 out of 10. Not a huge difference but since I have both and can use whichever I want, I go for the Bigshot. However, I'm not in tears if I have to use the ceramic, I still have great results with it. I actually use the ceramic on my SL-68II with a low power scope when I'm messing around doing target practice and it works pretty good. Sometimes it shoots dead on target and other times it's just a little off but it's generally pretty close to what I'm aiming for. Most other barrels are not much better but are significantly more expensive so I would recommend sticking to one of these two but this is your gun and your money so you make the call.

Do you use the same paint for both barrels? If so, that's the problem. They are different bore sizes and that would constitute the little difference. Obviously then, the Bigshot had a bore size match a little better than the Ceramic. If you use paint that matches both barrels perfectly, you'll get roughly the exact same performance. I own both barrels as well.

EDIT: Get a 12 inch over anything else. Less than that and you're losing accuracy. More than that and you're using more air to push the ball out of the barrel. I've heard that a ball needs 8in. to speed up in the barrel and 4 inches to stabilize for accuracy. And that equals 12 inches.



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Everyone of my guns now use a J&J

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 i say NO!

a bigshot is like $20 and sooo much better, the bigshot is better than my friends all american, best barrel unda $75

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Originally posted by 98c - baller 98c - baller wrote:

 i say NO!

a bigshot is like $20 and sooo much better, the bigshot is better than my friends all american, best barrel unda $75

Somebody is exaggerating.  Nothing under $100 is better than an all american and nothing under $60 is better than a ceramic.  Ceramics are $34 of actionvillage.com and worth their weight in nitro.[not quite sure I understand that one].  But anyway the ceramic is the best bang for the $ by far.  If you change your mind and want something else for under $50 go teardrop, not bigshot.  I'd never replace the all american on my shocker or the ceramic on my brother's E-99.

Oh yeah: I assume you are shooting a tipp. right? R/t is the best woodsball firepower upgrade available, mine rips w/ a little @ home mod.



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both the bigshot and the ceramic are about the same accuracy if you use the right balls. only the ceramic is quieter but it doesnt bother me.

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if want somehting good get the freak jr kit from smartparts....its nice and has bore inserts for big bore or small bore in the middle cheap than the regular freak kit

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Originally posted by BearClaw BearClaw wrote:

Indefinatly

Accuracy is great
it is super quiet
and it cleans itself out if for some reason you do chop a ball
Oh and for its price it is a steal

^ what he said. 

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its a good barrel, im gonna get it for my spyder xtra.
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they dont shoot low quality paint very well

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