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Slimz.357 
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I'd like to know more about the new Auto Cartridge, has anyone used it?
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"If you make it idiot proof, they'll make a better idiot."
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SandMan
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 12:59pm |
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I guess I don't know much about the .45 GAP... What is it?
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 1:07pm |
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I've used it, the glock 37 shoots that cartridge and so does just a couple other pistols. It's much smaller than the ACP but still packs a good punch with higher velocity. The glock 37 is wonderful, especially because it's built from the frame of a glock 17. However, there is just too much history with the ACP and I think I'd much rather shoot that cartridge.
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 1:19pm |
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The .45GAP(Glock Auto Pistol) is only slightly different from the .45ACP. It has a case 1/8" shorter than th .45ACP and is loaded to comparable velocities. There seems to be a lot of hype about this new round, but take a close look at thier figures and you will see no major differences. Like rounds such as the 9x21mm and the .45Auto Short, it is illegal in some european countries to own military calibers. It may be that Glock has produced this new round to enhance sales to these countries. The performance gains of the .45GAP fall within the gains granted by a Glocks polygonal barrel(30-50fps with .45ACP). All in all it's new, but not really anything new. Also the testing I have seen on this has been biased, in that claims are made that are not backed up with facts. If anyone does try this new round sure would like to hear from you. |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 1:51pm |
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I'm NOT a fan of the glock line. They're right up there with taurus pistols. Girlfriends father does small arms repairs for NYPD, he says they've got more problems from glocks than anything else. If given a choice, I'll stand with ACP. |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 2:50pm |
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The GAP gives you the same ballistics as the 45 but it can be fired from a smaller framed weapon, which is lighter. Less weight to carry around, for those who need to do that all day, which was the driving force behind its birth. I have not shot one but I'll bet it's a bit of a handfull.
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 3:08pm |
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Give me a Colt M1911A1 any time.
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 3:12pm |
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Or a Para-Ordnance P14. |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 3:13pm |
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a lot of kB!'s?  I like ACP, the idea of a shorter case doesn't interest me at all. |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 3:15pm |
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Mmm... Para... But while 1911s and their progeny are great guns and fun to shoot, you will have a very slow shot unless you plan on carrying it around cocked all the time - and then you still have to hit the safety. Me likes Glocks. Never had any reliability problems either, but then I don't shoot as much as the NYPD. :) |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 3:59pm |
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USP Mk23 P228 All good, but dont know much about the cartridge. |
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 4:00pm |
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are these real guns?
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Posted: 17 November 2004 at 4:00pm |
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The .40 cal H&K USP Compact is an awesome pistol.
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:06am |
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Hmm.... Interesting. I never really understood the point of the .45 GAP. I really wish glock would come out with something a little different in the .45ACP, though.
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 2:24pm |
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yeah i have no clue about this stuff i stick with paint balls a car audio so i just coted for what everyone else voted for at the time
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 2:25pm |
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I can't stand Glocks. The lightweight material they use makes them feel like toys to me, and the lack of any kind of safety other than a trigger safety - I dunno, I just can't make myself like 'em. I think a better quation woulda been ".45 ACP or .45 Long?" But I'd take .45 ACP anyday, over Long and Glock. |
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 9:15pm |
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It is true that some countries prohibit guns that fire military calibers, a friend of mine had to trade his 9mm for a 357 when he moved to Honduras. Of the guns I've seen that fire the 45 GAP, the Glock is probably the best. I'm no fan of Glocks, but they get the job done. I've always liked the 9mm myself. Using +P's in my H&K P7, they pack a good enough punch to do the job. The original design 9mm in the Luger was alot more powerful than the typical 9mm ammo of today, it still may not have been as strong as the .45, but it was nothing to laugh at. |
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 9:21pm |
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what are you talkin about newb (glassjaw)! we are talkin about water guns! dont you peoples ever learn? |
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