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What do you guys think is more worth it??
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E-Grip: Can change firing modes, is faster, 15 BPS, tourney legal
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E-grip  if you play tourney. Some fields don't allow the r/t and most tourneys don't also. If you have the money, go with the e-grip. A friend of mine has an A-5 with a r/t. The r/t is slow on his gun but on my 98c, it rips. I have also heard of someone elses A-5 with r/t wasn't shooting fast either. So with the A-5, I would get the E-grip.
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Originally posted by A-5 Command A-5 Command wrote:

E-Grip: Can change firing modes, is faster, 15 BPS, tourney legal
actually the r/t goes 16 and is just 1bps faster than egrip.
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anyway, the r/t has no possible advantages over the egrip what so ever, except for the price which is made up for in the egrips performance.  First of all, the egrip is tournament leagal, although it must be on semi auto.  R/t are illegal in tourrny's, getting the egrip would save you hassle before a tournament.  Second, the egrip trigger pull is soooo much lighter than the original grip; it is very light and short.  The r/t actually has a heavier pull than the original grip because of the gas resistance.  Third, the egrip has 5 different firing modes:semi auto, turbo mode(shoots twice for each trigger pull as long as the release of the trigger is within .25 seconds of the pull), response mode(you fire about three shots and then every trigger pull after that throws out about 3 shots, this is when the rof is set to highest), 3 shot burst(self explainable), and of course, full auto, yur best friend.  R/t firing modes: NONE. it is like a semi auto but auto at the same time type thing.  Fourth, the r/t uses excess gas to be powered, so u will find your self running out of gas faster, the egrip doesnt uses any excess gas, just a battery.

the only possible reason i could see someone not buying this product is because of its price $120 compared to r/t $80.  But, as you can see from above, it is well worth your money and is the best upgrade you can get for your A5, except HPA. 

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Originally posted by A5 dude15 A5 dude15 wrote:

anyway, the r/t has no possible advantages over the egrip what so ever, except for the price which is made up for in the egrips performance.  First of all, the egrip is tournament leagal, although it must be on semi auto.  R/t are illegal in tourrny's, getting the egrip would save you hassle before a tournament.  Second, the egrip trigger pull is soooo much lighter than the original grip; it is very light and short.  The r/t actually has a heavier pull than the original grip because of the gas resistance.  Third, the egrip has 5 different firing modes:semi auto, turbo mode(shoots twice for each trigger pull as long as the release of the trigger is within .25 seconds of the pull), response mode(you fire about three shots and then every trigger pull after that throws out about 3 shots, this is when the rof is set to highest), 3 shot burst(self explainable), and of course, full auto, yur best friend.  R/t firing modes: NONE. it is like a semi auto but auto at the same time type thing.  Fourth, the r/t uses excess gas to be powered, so u will find your self running out of gas faster, the egrip doesnt uses any excess gas, just a battery.

the only possible reason i could see someone not buying this product is because of its price $120 compared to r/t $80.  But, as you can see from above, it is well worth your money and is the best upgrade you can get for your A5, except HPA. 

Hope this helps.

Very good post!  

But the part about the R/T using more gas is complete BS!

The R/T uses blowback gas to reset the R/T piston so it will put together strings of shots together easily. If you didn't have a R/T installed the blowback gas would just dissipate into the air.

In simple terms :

The R/T doesn't use anymore gas than a stock A-5!

This is a common misconception about the R/T
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Originally posted by A-5 Command A-5 Command wrote:

E-Grip: Can change firing modes, is faster, 15 BPS, tourney legal

what he said
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also wit the e grip u can get that jcs trig blade adjustable trig.
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e-grip for sure, more options, more fun!
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Originally posted by A5 dude15 A5 dude15 wrote:

anyway, the r/t has no possible advantages over the egrip what so ever, except for the price which is made up for in the egrips performance.  First of all, the egrip is tournament leagal, although it must be on semi auto.  R/t are illegal in tourrny's, getting the egrip would save you hassle before a tournament.  Second, the egrip trigger pull is soooo much lighter than the original grip; it is very light and short.  The r/t actually has a heavier pull than the original grip because of the gas resistance.  Third, the egrip has 5 different firing modes:semi auto, turbo mode(shoots twice for each trigger pull as long as the release of the trigger is within .25 seconds of the pull), response mode(you fire about three shots and then every trigger pull after that throws out about 3 shots, this is when the rof is set to highest), 3 shot burst(self explainable), and of course, full auto, yur best friend.  R/t firing modes: NONE. it is like a semi auto but auto at the same time type thing.  Fourth, the r/t uses excess gas to be powered, so u will find your self running out of gas faster, the egrip doesnt uses any excess gas, just a battery.


the only possible reason i could see someone not buying this product is because of its price $120 compared to r/t $80.  But, as you can see from above, it is well worth your money and is the best upgrade you can get for your A5, except HPA. 


Hope this helps.



Do you know what excess gas means???
It means gas that otherwise would NOT be used. So your 4th reason is completely wrong.

And I'd own a R/T before an E-grip anyday. Why you might ask?
Because with the R/T you dont need to take anyhting apart or use any tools to switch from semi auto to full. That way i can shoot single shots when needed or lay down the paint whenever I want. No tools needed.
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A-5 dude, dont forget 3 shot burst lol

And also a possible advantage that some people say to get the R/T over the E-Grip is that the E-Grip uses a battery which really means almost nothing (it fires about 3000 shots) which is 15 hopper fulls
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If you have the money go with the grip... it is worth it... but if u think you arent going to get the money i would settle wit a R/T since they r still good.
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This is really a personal preferance question.  The answer depends a lot on what type of game you are going to play.  I've had both on my A5 and didn't like either one.  Granted, the problem could be with my A5 since it is one of the early ones (serial # 000372) or it could just be me since I let my son use the e-grip on his A5 (#000375) and he didn't seem to have any problems. 

Anyway, to my point.  If your going to play mainly tournaments, or on licensed fields, you want to listen to the folks who recommended the e-grip.  But for woodsball, the guy up above (You Won't See Me) hit the nail on the head.  The r/t is cheaper, you never need to worry about batteries, and you can fire as little or as much as you want.

I like the model 98 r/t so much that I just installed another one on my other 98C.
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Originally posted by A5 dude15 A5 dude15 wrote:

anyway, the r/t has no possible advantages over the egrip what so ever, except for the price which is made up for in the egrips performance.  First of all, the egrip is tournament leagal, although it must be on semi auto.  R/t are illegal in tourrny's, getting the egrip would save you hassle before a tournament.  Second, the egrip trigger pull is soooo much lighter than the original grip; it is very light and short.  The r/t actually has a heavier pull than the original grip because of the gas resistance.  Third, the egrip has 5 different firing modes:semi auto, turbo mode(shoots twice for each trigger pull as long as the release of the trigger is within .25 seconds of the pull), response mode(you fire about three shots and then every trigger pull after that throws out about 3 shots, this is when the rof is set to highest), 3 shot burst(self explainable), and of course, full auto, yur best friend.  R/t firing modes: NONE. it is like a semi auto but auto at the same time type thing.  Fourth, the r/t uses excess gas to be powered, so u will find your self running out of gas faster, the egrip doesnt uses any excess gas, just a battery.


the only possible reason i could see someone not buying this product is because of its price $120 compared to r/t $80.  But, as you can see from above, it is well worth your money and is the best upgrade you can get for your A5, except HPA. 


Hope this helps.



Do you know what excess gas means???
It means gas that otherwise would NOT be used. So your 4th reason is completely wrong.

And I'd own a R/T before an E-grip anyday. Why you might ask?
Because with the R/T you dont need to take anyhting apart or use any tools to switch from semi auto to full. That way i can shoot single shots when needed or lay down the paint whenever I want. No tools needed.
srry.....jesus....u dont need to tell me im wrong when thats already been done...chill out jesus, beside htats how people learn, from making mistakes.... and yes im aware that "excess gas" means that it wont be used.  and wow, u got one advantage over the egrip.  to take care of that problem with the egrip just keep it on response mode, theres semi auto, but when you really need the fire power just pull the trigger a little faster and and your firing mode goes up to 15bps instantly and its all taken care of.

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I find the E-Grip/E-bolt Trashy compared to the R/T   Unless you are going to go into any tournment I Advise dont put Electronics into a Tippmann it isn't worth it...  R/T all the way!
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why isn't electronics worth it?

and like A5dude15 said on the auto response mode gives you semi auto (hold trigger down a little longer), auto respons, 3 shot burst (pull trigger, release trigger, and pull trigger), and full auto ( pull triggger rapidly)
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I dont have an E-grip, but I was thinking about purchasing one for my A-5 since my dad has a r/t on his and it pretty much sucks.  But, what do you mean you have to take the E-grip apart or whatever to change firing modes?  Its not operated by buttons?
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^^no its not that fancy. you have to take the grip apart and change it manually, which with the a-5 isnt that difficult.
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