Autococker or Automag?

Im looking to upgrade from my tippmann. I have narrowed it down to the cocker or the mag because thats what I can afford. Which one is better and why? I love the simplicity of the mag, it doesnt look like it requires much after you get the x-valve and level 10 bolt working good. Cockers also look good but are they easy to maintain?

Alright, both sound good. As I said this will be my first move up from my tippmann. I forgot to mention that I will be keeping whichever one I get a mech. I dont like electrics and really have no need for one. So the option to upgrade to an eblade doesnt affect anything.

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I don't really understand Auto-Mags.

EDIT: Like I mean do you build your own with the parts you can buy or something...


Edited by Bolt3

Alright, Im really leanin toward a mag. I understand how it works. And since the first thing ill do is take it apart to see how it works the mag sounds better. Anyone that knows does the X-valve automatically come with a level 10? thats the only thing im really confused on. Other than that what trigger frame do you suggest?

SuzukiRider987 wrote: The kid with the cocker is endlessley fixing his gun

That really doensn't surprise me. Anyway I too would say get the a RT mag. The X valve is great and will never give you problems with FSDO. Also the RTallows you to shoot very fast. It will be faser then any mechanical cocker.   

*impartial opinion*

Mags and Cockers are both wonderful guns. I hope to get a ULE-bodied 'mag at some point, and I've already got a Black Magic.

That said; how much are you planning on spending? Are you against buying guns used? I know you can find a nicely cared for gun for only $200 or $250.

The biggest advantage of 'cockers is also it's biggest disadvantage; it's easy to upgrade. How is this a disadvantage, you might ask? It's easy to mess with something that you don't know about. I don't know very much about how to time a 'cocker; I'll admit it. I know the basic theories on how it operates, and could expain how it fires the ball, but for the life of me can't time it. However, once it's in time, you don't have to worry about it. Mine's stayed timed for almost a year now, solid.

I really don't know why so many people have adverse feelings towards Mags; I think they're great. I'm not a fan of powerfeed guns, however, so that limits the bodies I'd prefer down to the Tac-One and ULE bodies. However, that's my personal choice; if you don't mind it don't make an issue out of it. I havn't shot a 'mag myself, but i can tell you this. I've played with people who own 'Mags, and when I ask them to cover me, they do it just as well as some kid with a Timmy or Angel.

Keep this in mind; these are all my views on these 2 wonderful guns. Try them out for yourself and come up with your own opinion; you may find that you hate the way a 'Cocker's trigger feels (My little brother is this way). The best advice I can give is shoot both and see what you like.

Enjoy!

WEll Im up for buying used guns.. Im looking at an R/T pro with x-valve and lvl 10 bolt for 260 right now which is a great price.

Im starting to understand mags more.. Basically from what ive seen, dont take apart the valve or bolt assembly and it should run fine.

What really interested me was the mag i saw on webdogradio... i love how the gun shot.

Edited by madpaintballer

Some mags are over 600 dalla, i say go with an 04 vert, they really good

Well if youve been paying attention I first asked this when I was looking at both options. Ive found alot of complaints about cockers and hardly any on mags. I was sold on the mag after dazed talked about not messing with the cocker and it will be fine. I have a tendancy to take my markers apart and look at what makes them tick. So the mag is a better option for me. I was basically wondering the pros and cons of both and after reading the posts and doing some research ive decided on the mag. So yes, this isnt really a poll anymore because I have decided.

Clark Kent wrote: Both are good guns.  Cockers, however, require a desire to learn and a willingness to tinker.  Great fun, and very reliable in knowledgable hands, but potential disaster for the mechanically inept.  Hardly ever chop, easy to clean when they do, endless upgrades.  Mags are idiot guns.  If you can't keep a Mag running you probably need help getting dressed.  Not as many parts means not as many possible upgrades.  Without lvl10 they can chop, and can be a pain to clean when they do.

what he said...

I love cockers...ive used my friend's mag and it was OKAY.  Wasn't as accurate as my cocker...it has a freak too...but maybe it was just the paint, i don't know.  Its really all preference...you should read reviews and play a game or two with 'em.  Have fun.  I know I love my prostock (autococker) and i was going through the same thigh as you...i got the cocker and never looked back.