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    Posted: 19 March 2005 at 7:29am
Well another "fun" debate on the forum, but seems I do not enjoy these as much as I used to. My portrayal of the "right wing" agitator to the normal flow of things is just not as fun anymore.

Whether you all believe it or not I do support what we are doing for the peoples of Afganistan and Iraq, just as I supported what we tried to do for the Vietnamese, Hondurans, Panamanians, Grenadains, and everywhere else I in my capacity have traveled. War is a terrible thing, but seeing how others in the world live, and under what conditions, made what I in my small part did, seem justified in my mind, as I justify in my mind what our next generation of soldiers are doing today for the peoples of Afganistan and Iraq. And lets not let the .001% who do not follow the "rules" be the guiding example of negativity to what the other 99.9% are trying to do for the positive.

We all can debate all this political bravo sierra all day long, my support is and allways will be for the troops, and the peoples we try to "help", again for whatever "misguided" reason which is at that time, illrelevant, we are there. Till the day comes when man no longer seeks what his brother has, and will use force to take it, till the day polititians fight the wars, till the day no one ever lives in fear of his leaders..........on that day, when the last weapon is layed down, maybe there will be no reason for people like myself to exsist anymore under the profesion of arms, and we can see that utopian dream...but we are man and even here as in the world, that will never happen.

My only true disappointment is seeing Americans who use thier right to freedom, protesting the freeing of another people, and see it as something wrong that America did for whatever "misguided" reason.



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yeah that is pretty damn disappointing
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No argument here.
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My only problem with  that is that we are arrogant enough to think we have all of the solutions and know whats best for others. There are more ways to solve a problem other than killing. I support the troops and the poeple we try to help. I just think military force is the LAST resort. We seem to be using it as our main foriegn policy.
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I like to think of it in medical terms, the fighting and everything going on in the Middle East is like a cancer, it's been going on for generations, and to this day does not seem to be getting better.  In my perspective, it will only get worse, like a cancer.

The best way to solve the problem, is to subdue the problem as quickly as possible and start "rehab" in the Middle East countries.

Yes, as Liquid3 said, there are always alternatives to military action, but once again referring to cancer, it's better to get right to it and solve the problem, rather than taking small steps and "poking" at the problem little by little.

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So why are we still in Iraq then.
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Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:

So why are we still in Iraq then.

umm.. cause Iraq is in rehab..

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Originally posted by Zesty Zesty wrote:

You're warped

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Originally posted by Liquid3 Liquid3 wrote:

My only problem with  that is that we are arrogant enough to think we have all of the solutions and know whats best for others. There are more ways to solve a problem other than killing. I support the troops and the poeple we try to help. I just think military force is the LAST resort. We seem to be using it as our main foriegn policy.


So what you are saying is that before we went to Iraq they had a "good" life,a happy, free life. All we are trying, we being the USA, is trying to do is give the third world communist or otherwise countries that do not have the freedoms and the rights we do and they deserve. Are you saying that we should'nt of went to Iraq, that their so called government and ruling by Sadam Hussien was good enough to "leave alone". We are trying to spread the good of our country to the less fortunate. And if you think that is a bad thing then you should go to canada (no offense canadians)
Death comes if war, war isnt good but sometimes it is nessisary (sp) to help people, if we wouldnt of fought for our freedoms in the 1700's and 1800's we wouldnt have been as free as we are today. And if some of our men wouldnt of died in the struggle then we wouldnt live in the great country i call home. I am an AMERICAN and i am proud of it.
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Ah, yes, the obligatory "just kidding" copout from OS.

Right on schedule.

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it's iraq's fault...why do we have to solve their problems...thats what i believe
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The people of Iraq didnt "do" anything they lived in fear of their leader. He killed and tortured anybody that even questioned his authority. Im not quite sure but I think it was like 100,000's of people killed because of just sayin something bad about him or his authority.
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I was at a protest today.  There were soldiers from the Big Red One there, too.  They were in uniform.  They told us that Iraq was a "goatscrew."   
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Whats a "goatscrew"?
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A big 'ol clustered up mess.  These guys had just gotten back from Iraq.
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It probably is but its still worth while.
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Either fight them on our turf [9/11, WTC bombing, ect.] or over there [3,000 miles from our home where our soldiers, not innocent Americans, do battle].  Which do you want it to be?
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You think those are the only two options?
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