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If you rely on Faux for your nightly news, then you won't know that Venezuela has one of the largest oil fields in the world, some predict larger than Saudi Arabia. Hugo Chavez the Venezuelan president turned down any more loans from the International Monetary Fund or World Bank last month, declaring that Venezuela is on its way to becoming a free country.

I predict his untimely demise within one year, or a U.S. backed dictator taking over. One year.

Read all about it in "The Confessions of an Economic Hitman".

Published on Friday, April 29, 2005 by the Associated Press
Venezuelan President Says He Will Not Return to U.S. Until Americans "liberate" Their Nation
by Andrea Rodriguez
 

HAVANA - Declaring that U.S. citizens are oppressed by their own government, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez promised Friday that he would not visit the United States again until Americans "liberate" their nation.

Chavez, in Havana for trade talks, told an international gathering of activists here that before an earlier trip to Cuba, a U.S. State Department undersecretary he did not identify warned him not to go because he would no longer be received in Washington.

He said he went ahead with that trip anyway, and later traveled to the United States to visit U.S. President George W. Bush, who he said greeted him with a Coca-Cola in his hand.

"I have not returned, nor do I think about returning again, until the people of the United States liberate that nation," said Chavez, saying that Americans are "oppressed" by their government and U.S. media.

While Chavez didn't elaborate, the implication was that he wouldn't return to the United States until the current administration was out of power.

Chavez considers Cuban President Fidel Castro a political ally and close personal friend, and Washington has grown increasingly alarmed by their deepening political and economic alliance.

During Chavez's current visit, the two countries have signed a host of economic and other accords, including a deal for Cuba to buy US$412 million (euro319 million) in goods from the South American nation, with Cuba waiving all import duties.

Venezuela's state oil company also has opened an office here this week, agreeing to help explore for and refine any crude deposits discovered off the island's coast. It also announced that the 53,000 barrels it has been sending to Cuba since 2000 at preferential terms was recently increased to up to 90,000 barrels daily.

Chavez also criticized the current Latin American tour by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, referring to her as an "imperial lady" who is trying to divide and conquer the hemisphere's developing nations.

Despite Chavez's anti-U.S. comments, his country is the world's fifth largest oil exporter and a top crude supplier to the United States.

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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.

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Venezuela has had oil for a long long time now.
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i was born in venezuela as well as my whole family and we hate chavez. he is ignorant and a soon to be dictator.

if he stops oil exporting to the U.S. or OPEC he is screwed and something will have to be done.

Most of the countries in south america are leaning towards communistic ideas. We have a lot to worry about in the future.


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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Venezuela has had oil for a long long time now.

For probably a billion years, but they are:

1. Turning down world bank money, a big no-no. You don't turn  down the mob.

2. Getting friendly with Cuba.

3. Talking bad about the U.S.

Chavez is going to go the same way as all south american leaders who try to break free from U.S. domination-in an explosion.

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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection
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He is calling the US opressed and hes best buddies with castro? What an idiot.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.


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Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.



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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

Quit being so pissy.

The U.S. owns the world bank. We string countries like Venezuela out in debt they cannot afford, and then when they cannot pay, we take their oil or put a naval base in their country. Chavez is starting to not play nice anymore, and refusing IMF money as well as run his mouth about the U.S.

I give him one year before he is overthrown or dies in a fireball.

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Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.

Bingo. I know nothing about Venezuela, so you could tell me anything about them and I wouldn't refute it. However, I have been enlightened by the book I cited in my first post, and if the author [or you] are right, then I give Chavez one year. You don't mess with U.S. oil.



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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.



Clearly you didnt read my post

i was giving you more of a reason to believe why goodsmitty is predicting this. Most of the facts i posted are unknown by the american people and should worry about whats gunna happen with chavez


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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

Quit being so pissy.

The U.S. owns the world bank. We string countries like Venezuela out in debt they cannot afford, and then when they cannot pay, we take their oil or put a naval base in their country. Chavez is starting to not play nice anymore, and refusing IMF money as well as run his mouth about the U.S.

I give him one year before he is overthrown or dies in a fireball.



So basically your saying that just because he doesnt like the US and is going for independence President Bush is going to have him assainated or something?


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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.

Bingo. I know nothing about Venezuela, so you could tell me anything about them and I wouldn't refute it. However, I have been enlightened by the book I cited in my first post, and if the author [or you] are right, then I give Chavez one year. You don't mess with U.S. oil.



So basically you are saying all your information comes from one book and you have yet to research and see things from the other side?  Nice . . .
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

Quit being so pissy.

The U.S. owns the world bank. We string countries like Venezuela out in debt they cannot afford, and then when they cannot pay, we take their oil or put a naval base in their country. Chavez is starting to not play nice anymore, and refusing IMF money as well as run his mouth about the U.S.

I give him one year before he is overthrown or dies in a fireball.



So basically your saying that just because he doesnt like the US and is going for independence President Bush is going to have him assainated or something?


Because he is tiptoeing the line of interrupting our oil supply, and according to xteam, sending the oil to our sworn enemies, he is going to be removed.

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He sucks, and he opened his mouth about the US. But i doubt hes going to be asisinated.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.

Bingo. I know nothing about Venezuela, so you could tell me anything about them and I wouldn't refute it. However, I have been enlightened by the book I cited in my first post, and if the author [or you] are right, then I give Chavez one year. You don't mess with U.S. oil.



So basically you are saying all your information comes from one book and you have yet to research and see things from the other side?  Nice . . .

It's a very compelling book, and the author is to the financial world what Einstein is to physics.

You haven't read the book or researched anything, even better....

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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by xteam02001 xteam02001 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Your Point?

I made a prediction. Let's see if it comes true.



So what in hell does the article and your little prediction have in common.  Your article is some guy whinning about US policy, your predition is the guy will get killed for being ontop of an oil reserve.  Aside from involving the same person I see no connection

chavez has ruined the Venezuelan economy. he is holding back oil and selling it to a communist nation. he is trading oil for assault weapons in russia. he traded oil for Mig-29's in russia. He has killed people who are against him. He is practically a dictator right now.

He could easily take charge of the country and be a dictator. He is keeping most of the money that the venezuelan gov. gets from the oil.

If he takes away the oil supply to the U.S. he will be assasinted or at least venezuela will be helped out by the U.S. until another president is elected.

Bingo. I know nothing about Venezuela, so you could tell me anything about them and I wouldn't refute it. However, I have been enlightened by the book I cited in my first post, and if the author [or you] are right, then I give Chavez one year. You don't mess with U.S. oil.



So basically you are saying all your information comes from one book and you have yet to research and see things from the other side?  Nice . . .

It's a very compelling book, and the author is to the financial world what Einstein is to physics.

You haven't read the book or researched anything, even better....



As a matter of fact I have read a fair bit of it.  It just so happens one of my friends decided to buy it.  Its been a while since but I dont remember it being anything wonderful.

As we speak I am now researching your claims.
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all of his claims are true. there is no reason not to believe him. Chavez is a bad person that only wants power. He doesnt care about the poverty and the recent floods in venezuela. He is a friend of Fidel Castro. He went to Cuba to celebrate his friggin birthday. what more do i need to say.

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