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    Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:30pm
Many on the last War 101 posting turned it into the they said, we say game, missing the intent of the original post, the method of war called logistics.

Iraq, and Saddam, had at one time chemical weapons, more than likely a total NBC WMD program in various stages of developement, before the 1st Gulf War, after the 1st Gulf War, and up until when, who knows. But the violations of the Cease Fire Agreement over 10 years, whould lead any rational person into suspition mode. And like any good criminal, still hides his gun, and uses his lawyer to convince and prove that he does not have a gun each time he is brought in on suspition of whatever, and Saddam had his gun hidden and the UN was a perfect lawyer, doing what lawyers do, saying he has no gun, never had a gun, and would never own a gun, and is not obligated to say where if he had a gun where he would hide it, that is if he had a gun. Because he used a gun once, does not mean he would ever use a gun again, and no you can not look in his room, but guess what we executed a "search warrent", and we found evidense that there was a gun, and there still may be one, just well hidden and we prevented its eventual use, good enough for most Americans.

Beyond that the Logistical battle on the Infastructure of the Terror Networks is the primary method we have to defeat the movement. So the War in Iraq may be unpopular, the reasoning and reasons will be questioned by many, but Saddam did nothing to prevent what happened and more than not facilitated the response.

Rather there than here, for now.

By the way Goodsmitty, what was your motivation for joining our all volunteer army, the education bennies?
No-one in your view actually sees duty to country as a motivation, just poor dumb slobs lookin for a collage education. Narrow view of our youth based on your personal opinion isn't it. I joined in my day knowing I was going to war, and did it for reasons you probably could never understand. Guess I come under the dumb hick definition you see us all as.

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We have a duty to fight against a foreign enemy that is less powerful than the freaks we already have in our country? Man, when did this come out?
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saddam hs alot of guns he had some gold ak47
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I dont know why, but OS, I always agree with you 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:34pm
And I always disagree, funny how the world works.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

And I always disagree, funny how the world works.

 


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Originally posted by redneckdeerhunt redneckdeerhunt wrote:

saddam hs alot of guns he had some gold ak47


he also had a gold plated kalashnikov sniper rifle. dont rember the whole name of it. someoen has one in thier profile... i think its thompson shooter. i also recall gold plated rpgs.
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He also had a Koran writin in blood, wich by muslim religious law is a serious no no.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

He also had a Koran writin in blood, wich by muslim religious law is a serious no no.

Yeah, it was written in his blood.

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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

He also had a Koran writin in blood, wich by muslim religious law is a serious no no.

Yeah, it was written in his blood.

I heard it was Bat Boy's blood.


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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

He also had a Koran writin in blood, wich by muslim religious law is a serious no no.

Yeah, it was written in his blood.

I heard it was Bat Boy's blood.

Ah, the beauty of sarcasm.

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I heard he eats babies.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

We have a duty to fight against a foreign enemy that is less powerful than the freaks we already have in our country? Man, when did this come out?


Seriously, that made no sense whatsoever.

Number 1 :  The freaks you mention are elected by the people
 
Number 2 :  Why would the army attack the people its protecting

Number 3 :  That addresses none of the points made by OS
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

We have a duty to fight against a foreign enemy that is less powerful than the freaks we already have in our country? Man, when did this come out?


Seriously, that made no sense whatsoever.

Number 1 :  The freaks you mention are elected by the people
 
Number 2 :  Why would the army attack the people its protecting

Number 3 :  That addresses none of the points made by OS

Read before you write. The freaks I mentioned were those criminals in our own country in which we as Americans come into contact with daily, not terrorists. I was making fun of the fact that OS believes we have a duty to "protect" our country by fighting people that will do less harm to the country than those already living here, such as the molester next door, or the burglar down the street.

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I heard he eats babies.


I heard he ate a whole family size bagful in one sitting.
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Originally posted by NotDaveEllis NotDaveEllis wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I heard he eats babies.


I heard he ate a whole family size bagful in one sitting.

Haha, he did, he's got quite an appetite.

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:


Read before you write.

Anyone find this totally ironic?


I agree with OS totally on this post.

And most of the regs know that me and OS never get along...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 July 2005 at 1:35am
Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:


Read before you write.

Anyone find this totally ironic?


I agree with OS totally on this post.

And most of the regs know that me and OS never get along...

How is it ironic? Maybe a little advice you should take into consideration.

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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:


By the way Goodsmitty, what was your motivation for joining our all volunteer army, the education bennies?
No-one in your view actually sees duty to country as a motivation, just poor dumb slobs lookin for a collage education. Narrow view of our youth based on your personal opinion isn't it. I joined in my day knowing I was going to war, and did it for reasons you probably could never understand. Guess I come under the dumb hick definition you see us all as.

Nobody cares. Your war sucks. wrap yourself in the flag and dance the bugaloo in the city park on the 4th.

I joined to pay for college, but I am very proud of my service. I did it, it's over. I quit living in the past and I don't expect everyone to gush with unquenchable indebtedness to my military service (as do you). We both volunteered, whatever our motivations. If your motivation makes your military service greater than mine, and that makes you happy, then good for you. Kudos to the patriots who serve out of zeal for their nation. My nation got their investment back with interest with my service.



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Goodsmitty, I do not care what you believe about me or my service, and my concern is again your current personal/political bigoted reference to our servicemen and woman in thier service motivation, just seems a tad illresponsible, from a veteran, but I expect nothing else from those such as yourself who saw and see service to the nation as only a personal gain not a period of comraderie, loyalty, pride, and respect.

There are those in our society who have volunteered today and in the past, to protect your right to have these bigoted views of them. And to target them in political retoric for serving as ordered, again shows the true nature of the those who only see the military as a political target of scorn, to further thier leftist political agenda, no matter what the cause the military is sent to defend/protect.

No matter, people such as yourself will never see the justifacation of this or any conflict (unless it is a Dem in office using the military as a meals on wheels, political legacy building exercise, 11years later still in Bosnia, after a promise of a 1 year mission, and not a peep from the left on that "occupation"), until that conflict is at your front door, then you will blame those who tried to keep it over there, for not doing all to protect you over here, nature of the leftist political beast.

Both of you try to make it to Realms Of Ruin Aug 20/21, just would be fun to share a few beers, and we could both understand the true nature of "the enemy". BTW I am the General for the "human" side (so bet if you show you will sign up as "alien", nature of the beast).



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