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    Posted: 28 July 2005 at 3:40am
Well...I am having trouble classifying what you would call my religion.
First and foremost, I don't believe in Jehovah. Second, I don't know if it could be possible to know weather we could know if there is some type of super-natural being. Third, I am open to possible chances that there could be a creator and a heaven.

Would I be a "weak" Atheist or an Agnostic Christian?
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Originally posted by themovielife themovielife wrote:

Well...I am having trouble classifying what you would call my religion.
First and foremost, I don't believe in Jehovah. Second, I don't know if it could be possible to know weather we could know if there is some type of super-natural being. Third, I am open to possible chances that there could be a creator and a heaven.

Would I be a "weak" Atheist or an Agnostic Christian?


I don't think you could ever classify yourself as a christian, because the bible says you can't stradle the fence. (praphrased of course)
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When you say, you dont believe in "Jehova" but are open to the possiblity of a creator. What do you mean?
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

When you say, you dont believe in "Jehova" but are open to the possiblity of a creator. What do you mean?
Jehovah as the Christian God and God as the creator of the universe.
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Originally posted by Heres To You Heres To You wrote:

I don't think you could ever classify yourself as a christian, because
the bible says you can't stradle the fence. (praphrased of course)
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

If I had seen, I would know. I have not seen; I do not know. I have faith. Is it acceptable to have faith in things you admit to not being totally sure of?
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Dont have a religion, have faith.

I dont go to church or pray or follow the bible. But i do believe that the universe was created, and that some big diety thing likes to mess around with us now and then.

Ive always been of the opinion that all the religions out there are talking to the same guy, theyre just mucking it all up with human emotions and jealousy.
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Good you asked, i work for a church and im writing a sermon for my pastor for this sunday and i have a bunch of books on my night stand.

Sure. Faith is the beleife and trust in god.

2nd Corinthians: Verse 5. We live by faith, not by sight.

We cant see, we have to feel, thats why its faith, we are tested through out faith. Abraham was considered ritcheous when he offered his son Isaac. Faith isnt blindly believing.

James 2:14. What good is it, my brothers if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds?

Faith is not just believing something. Real faith is doing things that show our faith to be real. Abraham had real faith and showed his faith by doing what god said. We can show our faith by doing what god says as well.

Faith is not just believing something, its also doing what the bible says, wich really in short is surprisingly simple, dont be wicked and love your fellow man and help those that need you.

As you go along in life not being sure, your faith will be filled, it might not happen all at once, but it will happen sure enough. Follow the bible and you will see god in your every day life.
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Dont have a religion, have faith.

I dont go to church or pray or follow the bible. But i do believe that
the universe was created, and that some big diety thing likes to mess
around with us now and then.

Ive always been of the opinion that all the religions out there are
talking to the same guy, theyre just mucking it all up with human
emotions and jealousy.



Enos you would love my bible class.
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Originally posted by themovielife themovielife wrote:

Well...I am having trouble classifying what you would call my religion.
First and foremost, I don't believe in Jehovah. Second, I don't know if it could be possible to know whether we could know if there is some type of super-natural being. Third, I am open to possible chances that there could be a creator and a heaven.

Would I be a "weak" Atheist or an Agnostic Christian?
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I will have my bible tonight so ill put some good verses in this thread. You not a christian unless youve accepted jesus christ as our savior.
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I think that pretty much defines your basic Agnostic. You cant really be an Agnostic Christian because the two things contradict eachother.

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Originally posted by themovielife themovielife wrote:

Well...I am having trouble classifying what you would call my religion.
First and foremost, I don't believe in Jehovah. Second, I don't know if it could be possible to know weather we could know if there is some type of super-natural being. Third, I am open to possible chances that there could be a creator and a heaven.

Would I be a "weak" Atheist or an Agnostic Christian?

Not an agnostic Christian... but just an Agnostic.

You say you don't believe in God. That being the case, how can you be Christian? If you don't believe in God, then you wouldn't believe in Christ.

You're not an atheist.

Here's the difference:

An atheist says outright that there is no God. Denies his very existance.

You seem to be the definition of an Agnostic. You, yourself don't believe in God, but will not deny his existance, and are open to the possibility of his existance.

I was raised Catholic... but consider myself Agnostic now. I do not believe in God, but will never say that he does not exist. I cannot prove his existance, nor can I prove he does not exist.
If I did believe in God, I would follow along with Enos. I would not follow an organized religion, as I believe organized religion to be a product of MAN and not God. And given it is a product of man, it is inherently flawed. I refuse to believe that one religion is right, while others are wrong, and that one group will go to purgatory based simply on what they believe... while another goes to paradise.
I'd like to think someone goes to either place based on how they've lived their life... not what they believe.

In any case... long story short. Agnostic is how I would categorize you.
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Agnostic seems the most likely..., and that little lecture kicked arse Shorty
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   Religon is evil. Faith is great I have faith I believe in god. But religon is what causes wars and famine and all of that. When people force there beliefs on others it can be very destructive. I think that all god wants is for everyone to have faith and to not cram it down the throats of those who don't believe. To accept others for what they are is what we are truly here for in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Agnostic seems the most likely..., and that little lecture kicked arse Shorty
Thanks. More just sharing my personal belief... not so much any kind of lecture. :)
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I think god made differen't religions so people would fight holy wars in his honor will he sat back and watched them.
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I'de say you are agnostic.
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Yeah, definitely agnostic.
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