thoughts on the military

Ok so a couple days ago a buddy of mine here at school showed me something that a kid he knows from back home wrote to him onthe military. This has kinda been an ongoing thing and the kid is honestly the most ignorant person ever. He basically bashes our service men and women saying that they are all worthless. Also that they are nothing more than war mongers who want to do nothing more than kill for the sake of killing. Another point he brings out which I belkieve is complete and utter crap is that most of the military is made up of low class people from the south and also that anyone in the military is nothing more than white trash. Now honestly I disagree with this compeltely because I have had relatives who have served, friends who are in the military right now, and also I myself am looking into joing the military when I graduate college. I guess that would still make me worhtless and white trash even though I am getting a four year degree. Oh yeah and just for the record I'm not from the south either, I'm from fircken New York State. Anyways now that I have gotten that out there what is your take on this one?

Edited by IrIsHGunNeR37

that guy is a fool. half the people in Iraq don't even want to be there, much less kill.

AgentWhale007!` wrote:

Thankfully the distasteful act that is this will be banned under the 28th admendment soon.. but thats not for here.

About.com wrote: Myth: The war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated. Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better.

Sure, not about our service men NOW, but it still makes a point.

Linus wrote: AgentWhale007!` wrote: Thankfully the distasteful act that is this will be banned under the 28th admendment soon.. but thats not for here.

I think your chances of a Second Coming are far better than your proposed ammendment happening.

Good luck with getting both and I suggest starting to hold your breath about......now.

Also your 28th Amendment will get Owned by something called the First Amendment.

Edited by Hades

Linus wrote: Thankfully the distasteful act that is this will be banned under the 28th admendment soon..

*giggle*

Yeah, that'll happen...

Linus wrote: About.com wrote: Myth: The war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated. Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better. Sure, not about our service men NOW, but it still makes a point.

Sure, it makes a point - that a draft equals things out (assuming that things were different before/after the draft).  Comparing Vietnam (draft) to now (no draft) is, well, wrong, and not informative at all as to the demographics of the current military.

I was planning on joining the Marines, but as Graduation draws nearer, but the end of the war does not, I am starting to second guess it.

I hate when people use the word ignorant when they don't know what it means. Time to slap Irishgunner in the face with some hardcore irony!

Clark, most of the officers in our military went to the Citidal/West Point. Do you know how hard it is to get into those?

Last time I checked, the LOWEST person enrolled at a military college is smarter the you and I.


Hades, you say it will be trumped by the 1st admendment, but guess what, I have something you will just LOVE.

If Congress made a law banning it, then yes, it's against the first admendment. That's what happened a few years ago, it was a law in Mass. I believe, and the Supreme court said it was unconstitional.

That's why Congress is bypassing the Supreme Court all together and making it an admendment. The Supreme Court cannot say a Constitional Admendment is unconstitional because it's PART of the Constitution.


It's one of those many loop holes in checks and balances. DOn't believe me (and I doubt you do) go check it up.

Edited by Linus

Yea, way to take my post out of context hysteria.

i joind the army. i am not the smartest person out there, only graduated high school in 01. i joined to get out on my own and have some adventure. i went in as a parachute rigger. not the best job in the army. its just like any fast paced production job, but i had a few good times while i was there, jumped almost every month at least once out of some type of aircraft, mostly at night with a 45lb ruck, and my m16 or m249. probably the most rewarding part of my job was to know that every time someone jumped out of an aircraft they survived because i did my job right and packed that chute right. there is alot of bs to endure in the army too, but some times its worth it. i was rewarded once by being sent on a detail for the chaplin, not knowing it at the time, but someone put in a good word for me to go to this detail, and i ended up getting paid to play paintball with my roommate at a chaplins event. the millitary is what you make of it. its not always enjoyable, but you get the chance to try so much.

some people do join to go to school because they have no other way to afford the heafty price of tuition. some join because they got into trouble and want to straighten out. or because they cant find work. or just to honor thier familys. theres too many reasons to mention why we who serve or have served, but the most inportant thing is every one has the chance to make something of them selves and contribute a small part back to this country.