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St!ffi or flatline?

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    Posted: 15 October 2005 at 5:19pm

Well, i wouldnt be a good forumer if i never made a rediculously noobish post, but i am in a quandry.

here's the thing, i play woodsball and scenario and cant decide whether to get the flatline or the st!ffi. they cost about the same, and each has its advantages over the other.

here's some research ive done:

FLATLINE: longer range, flatter trajectory and that nifty foregrip makes it comfy.

ST!FFI: quitest barrel (from what ive read), lightest barrel, acurate, also, im not sure why, but i love carbon fiber!

they both seem like great barrels and, like stated earlier, they cost about the same, and ive been thinking about this for a while, so i would like your imput. PWEEZE!!!

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Well, it's really going to come down to if you want the longer range or not. I don't know where or how you play, but if you feel that the longer range will benefit you more, then go for the Flatine. If it were me though, I'd go for the all-around performance of the St!ffi.
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well, to clear things up, im more of a neutral player. ill play anything but i prefer stalking around in the woods than to defending a bunker, i am conservative with paint, and im big. i hate it, and it serves a disadvantage, but o well. if i do play speedball, im a middle player because im easy to hit in the front and dont like lagging around in the back. still conservative with paint though.

i play in houston texas, so there are woods, but they are weird. they go from patches of open-ness to crap you cant hardly walk through.

i hope this cleas things up about play style.

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I'll address each of your points based on my ownership of the flatline and the stiffi switch set.

Stalking- Stiffi (it's quiet and if you can get the full switch setup, accurate as hell).

Conservative with paint- Stiffi (accuracy).  The flatline isn't the best in the accuracy department, expecially at range.

You're Big- IMHO, Flatline, It's great at keeping people from getting close to you.

Middle Player in speedball- Stiffi.  Although a back player can have a lot of fun with the flatline.

Terrain- You can own a lane with a flatline.

Stiffi score 3
Flatline score 2

My vote to the stiffi but, only for the reasons above.  If you can own both I strongly suggest it.

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id say stiffi, i think they look best and about 40 dollars cheaper at some sites

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yea, definately stiffi. if theres any brush at all, the whole flatline concept of ''sniping'' is gone. plus the stiffi is basically weightless and has amazing accuracy.
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I <3 my stiffi
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If you are considering the Flatline, you should take a hard look at the BT16 Apex barrel. Everything that the Flatline does and more with ANY paint. Only drawback is it is loud. Do a search with "Apex" in the subject line.
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i know what the apex is, and i dont want it. i just dont like it. too expensive (30 bucks more than a flatline), hard to use (taking that 5 seconds to adjust it perfectly is enough to get you lit up!), and to inaccurate (ive seen vids and it shot every which direction on the flatline mode thingy...)

no apex. preferably no BT...

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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

i know what the apex is, and i dont want it. i just dont like it. too expensive (30 bucks more than a flatline), hard to use (taking that 5 seconds to adjust it perfectly is enough to get you lit up!), and to inaccurate (ive seen vids and it shot every which direction on the flatline mode thingy...)

no apex. preferably no BT...

I paid 30 bucks less than the Flatline. Five seconds to adjust? Clearly you have no concept of what the Apex is. Couldn't have ever even had one in your hand, much less ever shot one. I'm playing speedball with it. Yes, one vid from a guy shooting mixed and old paint, and you are an expert? You need to read a little bit more of the posts here on the forum before you doom yourself to a paint finicky Flatline. But then, when we meet on the field, he, he, he! Never mind. Yes, the Apex is junk. That's the ticket.

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Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

i know what the apex is, and i dont want it. i just dont like it. too expensive (30 bucks more than a flatline), hard to use (taking that 5 seconds to adjust it perfectly is enough to get you lit up!), and to inaccurate (ive seen vids and it shot every which direction on the flatline mode thingy...)

no apex. preferably no BT...

I paid 30 bucks less than the Flatline. Five seconds to adjust? Clearly you have no concept of what the Apex is. Couldn't have ever even had one in your hand, much less ever shot one. I'm playing speedball with it. Yes, one vid from a guy shooting mixed and old paint, and you are an expert? You need to read a little bit more of the posts here on the forum before you doom yourself to a paint finicky Flatline. But then, when we meet on the field, he, he, he! Never mind. Yes, the Apex is junk. That's the ticket.

he said he doesn't want the apex, lay off.

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Originally posted by glazener24 glazener24 wrote:

Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

i know what the apex is, and i dont want it. i just dont like it. too expensive (30 bucks more than a flatline), hard to use (taking that 5 seconds to adjust it perfectly is enough to get you lit up!), and to inaccurate (ive seen vids and it shot every which direction on the flatline mode thingy...)

no apex. preferably no BT...

I paid 30 bucks less than the Flatline. Five seconds to adjust? Clearly you have no concept of what the Apex is. Couldn't have ever even had one in your hand, much less ever shot one. I'm playing speedball with it. Yes, one vid from a guy shooting mixed and old paint, and you are an expert? You need to read a little bit more of the posts here on the forum before you doom yourself to a paint finicky Flatline. But then, when we meet on the field, he, he, he! Never mind. Yes, the Apex is junk. That's the ticket.

He said he doesn't want the Apex, lay off!!!

He is basing an evaluation on misconceptions and incomplete information...but, you will note, I agreed with him, the Apex is junk...shouldn't waste his money.

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flatline because in the woods the flat trajectory is great for shootin in those tight spots between branches. it isnt the most accurate at long ranges but it sure is nice.
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dang bruce...yeah, ive never held or shot an apex, the five sec. thing was a random guess on twisting the front and stuff, and how did you get it 30 bucks cheaper than a $90 flatline? i saw it for like $120. also, i just dont want an apex. im not trying to argue, but i didnt deserve that...



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Yeah, dude believe me, I absolutely love to argue just about everything, but you don't have to snap at him. This site is for people to exchange info and tips and to enjoy doing it. Damn, man.
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By the way, Stiffi all the way. If you angle your barrel up it will shoot just as far. Plus the Stiffi is lighter, stronger, and looks cool as heck. Although the Flatline looks pretty sweet too.
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Originally posted by mrjinglesthebum mrjinglesthebum wrote:

flatline because in the woods the flat trajectory is great for shootin in those tight spots between branches. it isnt the most accurate at long ranges but it sure is nice.

I own both the Flatline and the Apex. The Apex is more accurate with any paint, that I have tried so far, than the Flatline is with Marbs or All Star.

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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

dang bruce...yeah, ive never held or shot an apex, the five sec. thing was a random guess on twisting the front and stuff, and how did you get it 30 bucks cheaper than a $90 flatline? i saw it for like $120. also, i just dont want an apex. im not trying to argue, but i didnt deserve that...

Deserve! I did include smiley faces, didn't I? Ebay! When the Flatline was on Ebay (NIB) just a couple of months ago common price was $119. I bought the brand new Apex for $89 on Ebay 3 weeks ago. Flatlines are getting cheap because of the Apex. I just sold my used Flatline on Ebay with the factory and an after market metal shroud for $66.

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