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    Posted: 06 December 2005 at 3:56pm

Recently it seems that political correctness has targeted christmas.

Apparently christmas is offensive the religions that do not celebrate it. As a result many local authorities will not put up the traditional decorations. I am offended by this and shocked that has been allowed to happen in a christian country (UK) 

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People are idiots.

Fight the power, decorate, celebrate your holiday. how is it offensive, it doesnt effect them at all. OMG TEH SANTA OMG TEH IM O-FEENDED!

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That is a bit surprising.  TMK, most European countries with state churches are visibly christmasy this time of year.  Strange.
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Don't let jewish people light their candles...
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put up your own decorations and celebrate your holiday and get over it
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Meh, I just let peopel think what they want to think and do my own thing. Some people at my old job either tried to be funny or were actually angered that we didn't have anything like a menora to put up, so they made the star of david out of a piece of paper and hung it on the xmas tree. I personally didn't care, but thinking back on it I guess they were taking things a little bit to the extreme side of it. Who really cares?
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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

put up your own decorations and celebrate your holiday and get over it

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It's political correctness that annoys me the most. In my area there is a roundabout that always has a tree in the middle of it all lit up. The council have refused to do that this year but all the way down the same street there are "happy Chanukah" posters every 20 feet. That isn't promoting equality
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Yeah here in the US politicians and the country in general are definatley trying to push anything God-related out of our society. I have noticed the same thing about Christmas.

And then people turn around and blame God for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina etc....

Pretty sad
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Originally posted by Scotchbroth Scotchbroth wrote:

It's political correctness that annoys me the most. In my area there is a roundabout that always has a tree in the middle of it all lit up. The council have refused to do that this year but all the way down the same street there are "happy Chanukah" posters every 20 feet. That isn't promoting equality

Was the tree on pubic property, as opposed to the posters being on private?

I dont know how the UK works really...


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Originally posted by Whazuuup! Whazuuup! wrote:

Yeah here in the US politicians and the country in general are definatley trying to push anything God-related out of our society. I have noticed the same thing about Christmas.

And then people turn around and blame God for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina etc....

Pretty sad

So by your theory, if we allowed nativity scenes on public property, bad things would not happen to us?


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no the posters are on lamposts and wall of the park and the tree is public.

 

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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Whazuuup! Whazuuup! wrote:

Yeah here in the US politicians and the country in general are definatley trying to push anything God-related out of our society. I have noticed the same thing about Christmas.And then people turn around and blame God for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina etc....Pretty sad


So by your theory, if we allowed nativity scenes on public property, bad things would not happen to us?

I think what he is saying is that we're quick to turn back to religion when something bad happens but think God is dead when things are fine. I guess it's tough for people to believe in a benevolent God.
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^^^^ I really couldn't have put it better myself 
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If we don't stop this, God will wink out of existence!
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What really made me laugh was.. "Happy Holiday" Trees. Saw a sign when I was driving down the street the other day.
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In 2002, Toronto city workers referred to the city's Christmas tree as a "holiday tree" resulting in a controversy that political correctness had been taken too far. Said Barry Levy, an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi and the head of religious studies at Montreal's McGill University, "That object is identified as a Christmas tree - it's not a Hannukah bush, it's not a winter tree, it's not a festival tree - it's a Christmas tree - we all know it for what it is. Quite frankly I'm offended on behalf of Christians for whom it's a symbol of some importance - that they should have a religious symbol converted into a secular one just in order to accommodate it into public display."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

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Holiday Trees... that is pretty funny.
I guess we can no longer say "Manora" either. We have to call it a Seasonal Seven-Candle Holder.
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Aren't they calling NYC's Christmas tree the "Holiday Tree" now or something?

People need to get a life if they find this stuff offensive.

Ok, I understand it if, for example, someone is not excused from school work for a religious reason that is not Christian or Jewish; but if people are complaining about other religions displaying symbols of their joy and beliefs, they need to open their eyes.

If someone puts a tree up somewhere, instead of complaining (if you don't celebrate Christmas) about the tree and why it shouldn't be called an Xmas tree (even though that's the only thing it represents), put up your own thing and deal with it. The only thing you should object to is a limit on your own beliefs. Right now, the Christians are getting the unfair end of the deal. The tree in NYC should be called the Christmas tree and nothing else. If the Jews want a Menorah, have a petition and send it to the governor, and find a place for it.

And if the government is just trying to remove God from society, why don't they just alter the pledge of allegiance and take "In God We Trust" off of the currency. Some things have to be taken care of with an iron fist. Either way, someone stupid is going to be offended.
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Hahaha that article made me laugh. And I like the candle idea..
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