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    Posted: 01 April 2006 at 8:19pm
all my friends are getting a-5's with flatline barrels. and i want tp "1 up them" by upgrading my 98c. so far i just have a stock 98 with an apex. now i was thinking of upgrading the whole shooting mechanism by making it fully auto. is there anything better better than the cyclone feed system? and is there anything better than r/t (which my friends have)?
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you could upgrade to the cyclone and get an electric hopper, or get the ebolt or the response trigger....theres alot of stuff you could do, depends on your preference and what sort of cash your working with
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my budget is about $150 and i play woods ball.
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If you have $150, you should definitly get the r/t and cyclone feed. Your gun will have a great woodsball setup then.
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theres really nothing better than the cyclone, you could always get that for around 60 on action village and then a cheap electronic hopper off ebay or something....i have a 98 as well and im into woods, the upgrades that i have are a 16"cp barrel, folding stock, double trigger and a remote line....ive never really worried about firepower in woodsball, ive just used good old fashioned tactics....last time i played with my friend we wiped out the other team who had upper end markers but werent good players...

if your lookin to be one up on your friend through upgrades thats gonna lead to a game run around...you want a one up on him, kick his butt in the game and brag how you beat him with a less upgraded marker.

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but the r/t isn't fully auto. 
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Technically it is. I will put it into comparison for you. The e-grip, in full-auto mode, is rated at 17 bps. The r/t, finely tuned can achieve rates of up to 20+ bps. The r/t is much faster than the e-grip.
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if you try to go full auto chances are youll end up with a blender , thats how ive seen it go most times anyway

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Originally posted by rossy11223 rossy11223 wrote:

Technically it is. I will put it into comparison for you. The e-grip, in full-auto mode, is rated at 17 bps. The r/t, finely tuned can achieve rates of up to 20+ bps. The r/t is much faster than the e-grip.

the e-grip is 15 with the stock board and the regular r/t is 17, super r/t is 22. was/ape boards for the e-grip can reach 25+

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Originally posted by DsXz DsXz wrote:

Originally posted by rossy11223 rossy11223 wrote:

Technically it is. I will put it into comparison for you. The e-grip, in full-auto mode, is rated at 17 bps. The r/t, finely tuned can achieve rates of up to 20+ bps. The r/t is much faster than the e-grip.

the e-grip is 15 with the stock board and the regular r/t is 17, super r/t is 22. was/ape boards for the e-grip can reach 25+

According to Tippmann the e-grip can fire at rates of 17 bps. I don't know if this is correct though because they also say that the r/t can only fire 15 bps.

The point is, the r/t is still better than the e-grip.

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^^^what is that thing and how much does it cost? and also with r/t dont you have to find the "sweet spot"? and when im in battle i will probably just get all shakey and nervouse and forget where it is. i just want to hold down the triger and.. "PAT PAT PAT!".


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The r/t or response trigger is an air assisted firing system for the 98c. It is a piston behind your trigger that pushes your trigger back in place to get ready for the next shot. It is completely powered by blowback gases that your gun normally wastes so you don't need batteries. There are also no electronics to fry when you accidently drop you gun in the water.

If you call Tippmann and ask for the bigger hoses, the r/t can achieve 20+ rates of firing. It costs $75. I would suggest getting it as it is perfect for woodsball. The sweet spot is very easy to find. You practically hold the trigger down for a full auto effect. The trigger sort of bounces off your finger.



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Originally posted by Fiestyboy Fiestyboy wrote:

^^^what is that thing and how much does it cost? and also with r/t dont you have to find the "sweet spot"? and when im in battle i will probably just get all shakey and nervouse and forget where it is. i just want to hold down the triger and.. "PAT PAT PAT!".


It sounds like you could use a little more experience. Don't rely on having superior fire-power to eliminate your enemies. Work on your tactics and control yourself. You are trying to take the easy way out, which will probably work for a time or two, but sooner or later, you will lack the neccessary skills of being able to use tactics and different situations to your advantage in order to prevail. Trying to out-do your friends by upgrading your gun makes you seem desperate. Learn how to defeat them with simple means. Then, later on, you upgrade your fire-power situation to really put the hurting on them! (I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but I have mean friends)
 
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i do have "skill" its just that when you see 2 people running across a open, flat field no more than 30 feet from you and you send a barrage of paint at them and it seems like god himself is guiding those balls away from them that you relize is it tactics or is it your equipment. Another time i see a kid walking up a 4 wheeler trail im hiding in the woods he has no idea im there, i open up on him yet he shoots me twice in the side and once on my unprotected neck (ouch! the welt went away after 5 days). he was using a a-5 with a flatline. 
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The more you play, the calmer your nerves become.  Its not the gun, its you more than half the time.  The trick is patience.
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unless you have the brand new 98 custom with new, upgradable reciever halves, then you cannot get the e-trigger. The e-trigger only fits the new 98 customs and custom pros because of the different trigger/sear setup. You could possibly get the e-grip, but they are hard to track down and when you do find them, they are about $300. So, unless you want to buy a new gun, you might have utilize the response trigger the best you can. You could sell your 98 custom and get a little cash out of it, then save up and buy the new 98 custom pro E with A.C.T.- it's electric and anti-chop. Just take your time and think about it, read some reviews, and make sure you are getting the gun that best suits your needs.
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Originally posted by Ashdawg Ashdawg wrote:

You could possibly get the e-grip, but they are hard to track down and when you do find them, they are about $300.

Do you mean E-Bolt?
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yes, i'm sorry. 
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psyco ballistics has 1 for 230, search google.
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is 98c able top run off HPA or do i need to buy something new?

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