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an94 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 June 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 514 |
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What do you think the biggest step in paintball technology?
Ill start I think its between the Tippmann 98 custom or the electric hoppers Talk |
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tallen702 ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Hipster before Hipster was cool... Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: Under Your Bed Status: Offline Points: 11856 |
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Not even close to being the biggest step. The two biggest steps that ever occurred in paintball technology wer the creation of constant air systems and semi-automatic markers. C.A. completely changed the name of the game, the competitive side of the sport got faster, games got shorter, and players had to re-think strategy. It used to be that you waited until the other guy had to change out his 12gram co2 cartridge before moving on his position. When you heard the hiss of the 12 gram being ejected, you ran up to the bunker and shot them point blank while they were helpless. The advent of Constant Air also ushered in the age of semi-automatic paintball markers as it allowed a high-volume semi-auto system to be used practically on the field. These two systems allowed for almost every other progression in paintball to occur. |
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sinisterNorth ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() 1 strike, language, 10/3 Joined: 30 May 2004 Location: PA Status: Offline Points: 10463 |
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Bang. Right on the money. |
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yeah agreed completely electric hoppers and the tippmann 98 are both great but not even close to the biggest step in paintball |
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And, both were invented by AGD. |
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Mack ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906 |
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Bingo. (Semi auto would have been pointless without constant air.) |
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Simma Down!! ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3422 |
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Correct me if im wrong but Gramps and Grizzlys airsmiths Lou "Gramps" Grubb and Mike "Grizzly" Grubb came up with the idea of constant air and patented it. |
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im agreeing with that maybe add electros too
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an94 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 June 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 514 |
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oops I didnt even think about the air tanks. who made the first semi PB gun?
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i think it was tippmann with the SMG-60...someone correct me if im wrong
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i know tippmann took a lot of first steps and still does, but someone said AGD made the first semi up there, and that wouldn't suprise me.
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vm68? it is really old and is semi auto.
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Canadians do it on top.
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an94 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 June 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 514 |
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Tippmann had an advantage over other companies cause they made fullauto firearms before going into paintball.
I thought autococker made the first successfull semi. |
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No, the first semi-automatic paintball marker was designed and manufactured by Dennis Tippmann, it was the SMG-60. Budd Orr's Autococker didn't hit the market until 1990. Prior to Orr's Autococker, Glenn Palmer worked on converting pump-markers to semi-auto starting in 1988 with "Camille" (which was stolen out of his truck several years ago). Orr's Autococker design borrows heavily from the Hurricane and Palmer's original 4-way valve design. Palmer in turn admits that a lot of the timing and automation aspects of his first markers were improvements on designs created by David Craig of TASO.
CA came out in 1983/84 But I'm pretty sure Tom Kaye wasn't the one who created it. Kaye DID create the six-pack speed changer for 12 gram cartridges and also produced some of the first HPA/N2 bottles. |
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Im pretty sure Tippmann invented CA. I even remember reading it somewhere that they felt it was too much of an innovation to paintball so they did not charge other companies royalties on it. Another innovation is masks..... |
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Good point. I remember wearing shop goggles at the field we played at in the UK in 1985. We used Splatmasters and it was a blast . . . until some one-eyed guy got it shut down. |
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Simma Down!! ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3422 |
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I know tippmann invented the pin valve could that be what you are thinking about? |
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tallen702 ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Hipster before Hipster was cool... Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: Under Your Bed Status: Offline Points: 11856 |
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Constant Air was banned in tournament play by 1983/84 before tippmann was even in the sport. The inventors of CA were indeed Gramps and Grizzly. Source
Full face protection goggles would definitely be in there too, good point! |
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standard .68 cal paint was also a big advancement.
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table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers *Fairies= Angels *Pixies= Timmys *leprachauns= tippys *goblins= spyders *elves= mags *lawyers= smartparts Ya I'm that smart |
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an94 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 June 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 514 |
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how about the use of electronics in PB guns? thats prob a very big step. & the fact that PB guns can fire double & sometimes tripple the speed of REAL firearms..
standards in cal. is really a good one. um lets talk about standards for a moment. lets say all manufacturers have a standard bolt, standard barrel, standard speed. that would be a good advancement.. it would get rid of all the "my gun is better than your gun!" why dont they do this??? like ALL go with AC barrel thread, etc. |
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