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Redoing the Original Matrix 98C

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    Posted: 03 February 2007 at 3:30pm
Original Matrix'd E98. Bought this from PCF awhile back. You all know the story behind it.

Starting to repair the grip frames. Tried using alumaloy but it kept spallin off. Plus, the torch was melting the grip panels.

Switched to JB Weld. Added some metal as filler to help strengthen it. It's looking good so far. One joint is set and I am filling in where other larger pieces have been cut out.

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First patch. Just trying to make it into one piece again.


Area where I replaced metal.


Sheet metal filler.


Epoxy setting.


You all may frown on using JB weld for something like this, but it's really the only thing that is going to work. Once it sets it will be plenty hard and should work just as well as anything.
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Cool, but is all the paint flaking off like that? 
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No. I sanded that off to start with. When using a torch to melt the alumaloy it scorches the paint. I just took it off beforehand so I wouldn't have to deal with it. The whole grip frame will be stripped and repainted. Everything else stays the same.
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But what about the sigs?
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good luck with that.  It always bothered me that it was so beat.
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Is there really a whole lot of custom milling and stuff done to the original halves? If not, or if you could also do that, I don't see why you might as well go and buy two new halves and put all the internals in them. But that could "ruin" the original matrix'd E98 so I can see why you wouldn't want to.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote karll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2007 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by QcXf QcXf wrote:

But what about the sigs?


All of the sigs are on the sides and top of the body. There are safe and unsanded, although some of them are starting to fade. There is a lot of millwork done to the inside of the grip frames. Even if there wasn't, I still wouldn't want to swap out internals. Rebuilding it because of what it is.
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Karl, let me know how it goes. I've got a guy here that wants to throw a matrix board in an e-bolt that he's got coming. I'll need you and bruce to lend me your expertise!
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Is he looking to use a Gen E matrix board or something like a DM4/5/C?
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Nice work so far. Do keep us updated.
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DM LCD He's currently using a worr-blade board I think
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I was talking with the original maker and he said he might have the original machine paths he used to mill the marker. Should I see if I can get them?
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If I were you, I would probably keep the reciever halves as is, and make an exact copy using the internals but with new recievers.

 

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I have thought that over many times. I came to the conclusion that I would rather repair the grip frames, put in a new board and noid, and leave everything else as is.
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if you fix it, i will have more respect for you.  good luck.  keep us posted.
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JB weld is about the only thing you can use. It kinda sucks, I know.

But if you use it right, you can sand it real nice. Noone will even know after a good paintjob.
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I am on the filing part right now. It sucks. I wish I had a DA sander. That would make this project a lot faster. I am probably going to add a coat of JB weld to the entire outsid of the grip panel. That way I can achieve a uniform surface and add strength.
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nice, it's good to see someone fixing it up instead of just staring at it sitting on my shelf
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Little more work done. Nothing major. Slowly but surely.

Little sanding/filing/dremeling.


Messing with some paint that didn't stick well at all. Just trying to get a feel of what it will look like in the end.

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What kind of grips you going to put back on it?
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