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    Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:37pm
i have been playing woodsball for around a year now never touched speedball i am wanting to get into it have a comp air tank just need a hopper alredy got one in mind dxs puls or a v35halo any tipss on a good but not to expencive speed ball guns i am not buying a spider or ion or the pmr any help is welcom
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DP Fusion is $350. Is that too high?
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no never herd of it i was thinking along the lines of evil minion
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Why not an Ion? You could try and get a used Shocker/DM5 or something like that. 
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Used is the way to go my friend. Markers are starting to be like computers, there's no sense in buying this year's model when it'll be half-as-cheap within 6 months to a year.
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Look into a used Shocker or Angel. If you want to spend a little less than those, look into a used Ion or DMLCD.
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Originally posted by sinisterNorth sinisterNorth wrote:

Look into a DMLCD.


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no angles they are good but i dont want one i have offers on pbnation for omens dm4 and minions
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dont go for the omen if your looking at minions.  They are evils low end gun.

How much are you looking to spend?  I like Defiant2s, but with the introduction of the Big 3, they are going to be dropping in price.


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no there not i have shot one wih the viertue brd it rips why would you say something like that i have shot a defients also great gun around 700 or less
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Buy a PM6, since the PM7's came down they are all marked down to 550 dollars.
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Originally posted by killerhalo killerhalo wrote:

no there not i have shot one wih the viertue brd it rips why would you say something like that

Talking about my Omen comment?  They are evil's low end gun.

Omen, then Pimp, then Minion.

I did a quick search, about 8 places online, the only place ive seen them still up for sale have them at a rediculous price.  And they listed the Pimp only $25 less than the Minion.  So much for that site...

They arent that great of guns.  People arent going to buy them over an ion.  At one point yes, i was thinking about getting one when they were on sale, but now, i can do better research and say there are better guns out there.

Sure anything with a virtue is going to shoot better.  But instead of using eyes, they use arms(or atleast the ones im thinking of).  People now want the guns with the laser eyes that you can see, not a gun that puts the hopper an inch to the right.


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Not sure why your not into the Rail but i just bought one and it seems to be amazing.I originaly thought they were plastic pieces of crap bough i saw one for a really nice price so i picked it up and im impressed.
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buy a cheap ion, PM5-6, Timmy, shocker, Etek . dont go with an Angel or any other really high end gun. you are use to woodball guns. high end guns NEED work done to them all the time, or they WILL break down. those 5 guns I just named are good starter speedball guns. and like I said dont get an Angel just yet. they are really great guns "if" you know what your doing... heck if you want you can always get a e-cocker really cheap too. good luck
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Originally posted by an94 an94 wrote:

dont go with an Angel or any other really high end gun. you are use to woodball guns. high end guns NEED work done to them all the time, or they WILL break down. those 5 guns I just named are good starter speedball guns. and like I said dont get an Angel just yet. they are really great guns "if" you know what your doing... heck if you want you can always get a e-cocker really cheap too. good luck


Do you even know what the heck you're talking about? Most high end markers are virtually maintenance free. Aside from pulling the bolt and lubing the moving parts every 10,000 rounds and throwing in a fresh battery about every 6,000 or so (for most markers) it's easy. The only problems you ever have from a high-end marker are the ones you, as the user, create by f-ing around with the dwell and pulse settings without knowing what you're doing. That said, an e-cocker presents far more maintenance issues, as do electro sear-trippers of all types, than the average high-end electropneumatic marker.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by an94 an94 wrote:

dont go with an Angel or any other really high end gun. you are use to woodball guns. high end guns NEED work done to them all the time, or they WILL break down. those 5 guns I just named are good starter speedball guns. and like I said dont get an Angel just yet. they are really great guns "if" you know what your doing... heck if you want you can always get a e-cocker really cheap too. good luck


Do you even know what the heck you're talking about? Most high end markers are virtually maintenance free. Aside from pulling the bolt and lubing the moving parts every 10,000 rounds and throwing in a fresh battery about every 6,000 or so (for most markers) it's easy. The only problems you ever have from a high-end marker are the ones you, as the user, create by f-ing around with the dwell and pulse settings without knowing what you're doing. That said, an e-cocker presents far more maintenance issues, as do electro sear-trippers of all types, than the average high-end electropneumatic marker.

QFT. If anything goes wrong that can't be fixed by lubing or a quick wipe down (i.e blow reg or seleniod) its usually users fault.
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Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:

Originally posted by killerhalo killerhalo wrote:

no there not i have shot one wih the viertue brd it rips why would you say something like that

Talking about my Omen comment?  They are evil's low end gun.

Omen, then Pimp, then Minion.

I did a quick search, about 8 places online, the only place ive seen them still up for sale have them at a rediculous price.  And they listed the Pimp only $25 less than the Minion.  So much for that site...

They arent that great of guns.  People arent going to buy them over an ion.  At one point yes, i was thinking about getting one when they were on sale, but now, i can do better research and say there are better guns out there.

Sure anything with a virtue is going to shoot better.  But instead of using eyes, they use arms(or atleast the ones im thinking of).  People now want the guns with the laser eyes that you can see, not a gun that puts the hopper an inch to the right.

omens are cocker wannabes.  they break down alot, and they are dead technology.  honestly, if you're going for an omen, just get an e1'd cocker.  more upgradeable and reliable.
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not gettin any of theses i am getting a invert mini now i ot to use the frist one in jax fl at the feild i work at its fast and light i have wanted one then changed my mind i was going to get a minion or a shocker then i finly got to shoot the mini nok i am wanting one again
now dont try to talk me out of it i already payed for it
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..................??????????????? explain tallen i am not sure what all that means to me realy i know its a noob question
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