woodsball gun

Hi

I'm new to the forum, but recently got a Tippmann Custom Pro to start playing woodsball with my brother and some guys he works with.  I also managed to talk several people from work into getting guns.

My one friend just bought a Tippmann 98 Custom today, and another is purchasing a gun Saturday.

My friend buying on Saturday is wanting to get the Viewloader High Voltage from Wal-Mart.  I don't know much about the gun, but I did try to sway him into just getting a Tippmann 98 for around the same price, as they're said to be reliable guns.

However he's still wanting to get the Viewloader.  I read some reviews about it, and it doesn't seem too bad of a gun.. the common thing said is upgrading the hopper, and barrell. 

He's not wanting to spend more than $150 for the gun, mask, and tank.  Do any of you have any experience with the Viewloader compared to your Tippmann guns?  Should I keep trying to sway him into a 98 or just let him get a Viewloader.  He keeps asking me what he should do, but I've done told him what I thought and have since just said to buy what he wants.  It's his money, that he should just buy what he wants. 

Opinions?

The VL high voltage is a decent speedball gun but is not made for scenario, if your friend is going to get a tippmann 98c, then he will have the option to switch back and forth between speedball and scenario depending on the kind of kits he buys. Do not take my words and say "What does he know" just because of my low rank, I just lost the password for my other account and I have been paintballing for about 4 years now. Still, try to sway your friend into spending a little extra money to get the 98c, it will do a lot more for him when he decides he wants to play more often, scenario, or speedball. A lot of good upgrades can be purchased off of action village to improve his 98c. Talk to you later

Here's my take on the VL High-Voltage. It's a decent little e-marker. And for the price, you're paying for what you get. The e-grip is your standard spider-clone sear tripper, basically what you'd get with any other e-grip out there. The different modes of fire are probably what are drawing your friend's attention, and if all you're going to be doing is playing in the woods with each other, not at a field with a bunch of people, it'll probably do just fine. As far as the quality of it's parts, I'm not so impressed. There is a heavy reliance on plastic (including the bolt linkage)and if it sees fairly heavy usage under conditions that you normally find at field games, he's going to start having problems. Upgradability is another issue. Aside from BE/JT/VL, no one is manufacturing upgrades to that particular marker. So, basically what he buys is what he's stuck with. Also, the VL Quantum hopper that comes with the marker feeds at only 8bps, which is fine for that particular marker, but is virtually worthless for anything that has a faster fire rate. While it will keep him from having to shake his marker every once in a while to clear up feed jams, it's not really anything special. The issue I have with the hopper is this, when comparing prices, you should realize that almost $30 of the cost of that marker is the hopper, which, in all reality, he doesn't need/want in the long run.

Simply put, the upgradibility, durability, and reliability of the tippmann series of markers far outstrips pretty much anything that the BE/VL/JT camp is putting out. While the High-Voltage is a neat little e-marker, it isn't anything worth investing in.

Yeah it's semi, 3shot, and full auto modes.

We're playing on privately owned woods.. my boss has an area, as well as the people who own the place my bro works for.  So there are no gun regulations to worry about.

I told him what I had read about it...that it had decent reviews, but everyone did say that the barrel and hoppers needed upgrading.  Then I tried to explain if you're shooting full auto a lot you'll need a good hopper, and that can easily cost what he's paying for the gun itself.

I don't want to just turn this into something where he's buying a gun he really doesn't want because buying stuff is half the fun of playing..

Yeah..

What gets me though is.. I've got a Tippmann Custom Pro.. has the double trigger and drop forward on it stock..and then I bought the Lapco Bigshot barrel for it.. and he thinks it's cool as **edited**.. and I try to explain that my gun is basically just a 98.  But he says he doesn't like the 98's much.


I dunno.. I'll just tell him once more what I think.  Then, as you said, let him dig his own grave.

Thanks for the replies.

Suggest the PSC US-5

PSC US-5: 120.00
20oz CO2: 15.00
VL Revolution: 40.00-50.00/ Evolution II: 60.00

right around your friends price range, and if he wants to upgrade it to an electro sear trigger frame, unlike the tippmanns its a 70 dollar clip that slides into the grip.

Your friend should not get cocky just because it is automatic, this just means that if he ever wants to join a tournament, they might turn him down, just because they do not allow automatic markers.

Amen to that tippy!! But still, it's not in my nature to screw other players, so persuade him to buy a tippmann.

Tell him to go with the 98 and if he wants to fire at a fast rate to get the e trigger up grade for it ya ita a hundred bucks but its worth the money and the gun take's a lot of abuse for sure i play woods ball and i have dove in to the dirt with it and it's still shooting around 18 bps on target.

tallen702 wrote: Black_Shadow wrote: the other thing is, if hes going to fire full auto alot hes going to chop balls like a blender... actually, it has an anti-chop bolt and a 8bps agitated hopper stock...

in woodsball

mech > electro

[sarcasm]And when that "sick" VL breaks (not "if" i said "when") hes going to have to deal with the best customer support on earth! brass eagle!!! [/sarcasm]

and i dont care what its got stock... Its a VL!!! a 98c just better, end of sentence, PERIOD.