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    Posted: 15 February 2007 at 8:57pm
i jus got a new ion and put on the tank .... and now its stuck (not comin off) its a empire fuel fixed tank. is ther a way to take it off?
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you may have cross-threaded it, the only way you can fix that is with a little brute-force

if the tank is empty you might be able to get it off easier if you disconnect the bottomline/asa from your marker...
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my dad even tried and couldnt unscrew it.tanks empty too



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if you have something like a pipe wrench and a thick piece of cloth try using those to get some leverage on it...

(note: make sure the cloth is going to prevent the wrench from wrecking the tank and not just rip)
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yea the thing is the empire tank unscrews from its neck so it makes it harder. thers no other way to it?

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Nope... the only way your going to get it off is force...

make sure you go slow, or you might damage the threads too...

if you can put the gun in a vice or something like that... it might help...
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yes you MUST put some oil at where the threads begin to release some of the friction, it happened with my protium on it's first gas up.

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This may not get to you in time, but you never, EVER use force, This could lead to you unscrewing the valve from the tank body. THIS IS NOT GOOD AND YOU NEED TO GET SOME OIL FOR YOUR MARKER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did something feel wrong when screwing the tank in? Make sure the only thing unscrewing is the threads that go into the ASA. If the valve is unscrewing, you got a big problem.

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thanks and hopefully i get it out but how can i prevent that happening again?

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Oil your gun before and after every use, pro shops will carry oil.
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Originally posted by biohazard420 biohazard420 wrote:

thanks and hopefully i get it out but how can i prevent that happening again?

Screw it in deliberately. Do not just slap it in there and twist it. Make sure the threads on the tank and ASA are nice and sharp. If they're not, replace what is dulled/worn out.

Greasing or oiling the threads should never be necessary.

As for you current problem, assuming it's still a problem, use a strap wrench or two.

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Note on the oiling  DO NOT put any oil near/in/on the fill nipple. This make tanks explode. Very bad.
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Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by biohazard420 biohazard420 wrote:

thanks and hopefully i get it out but how can i prevent that happening again?

Screw it in deliberately. Do not just slap it in there and twist it. Make sure the threads on the tank and ASA are nice and sharp. If they're not, replace what is dulled/worn out.

Greasing or oiling the threads should never be necessary.

As for you current problem, assuming it's still a problem, use a strap wrench or two.

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You should always oil the threads because if you don't you could unscrew the valve from the tank body! always oil you gun before you use it.

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Originally posted by TippmannsRkool9 TippmannsRkool9 wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by biohazard420 biohazard420 wrote:

thanks and hopefully i get it out but how can i prevent that happening again?

Screw it in deliberately. Do not just slap it in there and twist it. Make sure the threads on the tank and ASA are nice and sharp. If they're not, replace what is dulled/worn out.

Greasing or oiling the threads should never be necessary.

As for you current problem, assuming it's still a problem, use a strap wrench or two.

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You should always oil the threads because if you don't you could unscrew the valve from the tank body! always oil you gun before you use it.

There should never be that much friction, and the reg should not be that loose to the tank body.

As long as the threads on the ASA and tank are fine, oil or grease should not be necessary. If there is a lot of friction, check your threads.



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Couldnt you tell when the tank should of stopped?  Or did you crossthread it?

Kind of odd, the tanks that ive seen tightened on too much, the tank seperates from the valve part and comes off.


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hybrid,

If you have no experience whatsoever with tanks detacting the valves from the body, then you should not be in this conversation, so far I have had a tank valve, unscrew from the tank, and 2 of my other friends have had the valves come detached from the tank, not to be disrespectful, but you probably, have not had the type of experiences I have had.

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And one other thing, If you have ever, EVER, looked at the back Co2 threading, It say's specifically on the threading, "Note, Oil before adding air to this system, If not oiled, tank could result in rapid depressurization and may cause serious injury or death". I am warning all of the new players to please, PLEASE, buy oil for your markers, we do not want any misfortunate accidents!
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On my Co2 tanks, I've always added a drop in the pin valve and cycled it before filling. I have also added a drop to the threads before screwing the cap on or screwing it into the tank. This will last a long time before I have to do it again.
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Originally posted by TippmannsRkool9 TippmannsRkool9 wrote:

hybrid,

If you have no experience whatsoever with tanks detacting the valves from the body, then you should not be in this conversation, so far I have had a tank valve, unscrew from the tank, and 2 of my other friends have had the valves come detached from the tank, not to be disrespectful, but you probably, have not had the type of experiences I have had.

Are you kidding me?

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