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    Posted: 20 July 2007 at 1:20am

Thats christians, not the christianity...

I have no problem with the belief, but its when Christians (and I know not all of them are like this) ignore what their own beliefs say, and threaten to "kick my ass" and tell me to "have fun in hell" just for me stating my own opinions... And yet somehow they see nothing wrong with this? maybe its just a dumb missouri redneck thing... but it gets really annoying...

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I'm going to kick your ass, then you will have fun in hell when you die.
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Hurray for generalizations.

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anyone else read that as "my thoughts on christmas" ?
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saying "you will go to hell" is just wrong. As a Christian myself, just saying that without explaining it or going into a conversation is very wrong. Gives Christians a bad name. i will no go out and say it to random people, its wrong.



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Why should you Christian's be saying it at all?  It's not like you yourselves decide our fate, according to your beliefs.
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I think people should just stop giving their opinions on different groups of people.
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It is my opinion that no one here cares what any one else's opinions are.
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Sneaky, was it you on the forum who burned a bible or was that someone else?
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Sneaky, you should tell the christians that they are in fact, hypocrites, and therefore going to hell because of it.
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I have a personal problem in the current with Christianity and their mainstream views on homosexuality. The problem is so damn hypocritical it's hard to fathom.


Yes it is true the God spoke onto word that homosexuality was deplorable, and one of his least accepted sins.



However, Jesus turns around and states that the entire law, THEE ENTIRE LAW, is summed up by two things, love your god with all your heart and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself (May very well be a bit mis-worded)

I fail to see how one can disown gays from the church, and not allow their marriage, if one at the same time loves them as ones self.



Secondly - Jesus also stated that it is not for us to judge, lest we in turn be judged accordingly. I fail to understand how churches can decide not to accept gays, but not expect to be held accountable for passing judgment.




Perhaps some of the other Christians in here can shed some light on that, before I discuss it with my pastor.


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Jesus himself also whipped and scourged the money changers at the temple while they were conducting business in on the sabath.

Not supposed to work or handle money on the sabbath according to Jewish law, it was a crime against God. It angered jesus and he drove them out by the lash of a bull whip.

Not really loving your neighbor is it?

Some view acting on homosexuality as a sin or a crime against god, only they arent about to whip and beat any homosexual, albeit, it does happen though, we call these things hate crimes.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Jesus himself also whipped and scourged the money changers at the temple while they were conducting business in on the sabath.

Not supposed to work or handle money on the sabbath according to Jewish law, it was a crime against God. It angered jesus and he drove them out by the lash of a bull whip.



I recall the story saying he flipped over their tables, and drove them from the temple, I have no recollection of him whipping them... Quote reference as well as version?
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Jesus himself also whipped and scourged the money changers at the temple while they were conducting business in on the sabath.

Not supposed to work or handle money on the sabbath according to Jewish law, it was a crime against God. It angered jesus and he drove them out by the lash of a bull whip.

Not really loving your neighbor is it?

Some view acting on homosexuality as a sin or a crime against god, only they arent about to whip and beat any homosexual, albeit, it does happen though, we call these things hate crimes.
i haven't heard that one yet.  From what i was told is that Jesus was completely non-violent.
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Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

anyone else read that as "my thoughts on christmas" ?


I absolutely did.

My problem with anyone who hides behind a bible is the fact that they do just that. People who say others will go to hell because of the way that they chose to live their lives and then think that they are perfect because they are religious.

My example: My sister passed away shortly before my 12th birthday due to a blood infection. My father, brother, and I were all baptised Catholic (none of us by choice I might add). My mother never converted to the Catholic religion and remaind Prodestant. She still came to church with us and sang in the church choir. One day a lady who works at the church approached my mother and said "You know, maybe your daughter died because you aren't Catholic."

Now I never enjoyed church before and even at that age I was smart enough to understand where that kind of talk was coming from. Only the Bible and Religion could make someone feel that they had the right to say that.

Now I don't care what you believe as far as religion goes, but I warn all of you that if any of you say that you feel the lady from my church was right in what she said (even as a joke) I'll hunt you down. That sort of thing is never acceptable/funny on any level.
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Hm, i just looked up the passage. I wonder where i got the whipping from.
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The problem is the literalists, who obviously inturpret the Bible word for word.  Much of the Bible (more specifically the Old Testament and the Parables) is symbolism, and lessons need to be taken from them and be applied to today's society as we see fit.  What gives us a bad name is the literalists who view things in a much too serious matter (foul language sends you to hell, tradgedy is punishment for sin, because you're a different religion you're going to hell or your family is going to be punished, God doesn't love gays, etc..) and it just so happens that these extremests are the most vocal of much the christian/catholic community because the figure the Bible word for word backs up their argument.  It's a shame, really, that there are these such people because not only does it give us a bad reputation, but it scares people off from any kind of christian related faith.  Many modern interpretations use stories and texts from the Bible, but apply them in a much more accepting way to today's society.  Many techings now say that gays are to be accepted (and they should be...) as are people of other religions.  All religions are accepted in the eyes of God that don't denounce him and are reasonable and for lack of a better term 'sane' in their beliefs.
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