I qual’d marksman today.

PWT 2 or 3? PWT 3 is marksman; crpss rifles and crown. PWT 2 is first class shot- cross rifles alone.

I was an ARSO on Monday for the NSE up here. Some of those arts and crafts types made me distinctly nervous. I don't like seeing a supply tech doing a rundown shoot with her hand on the pistol grip... Gooddamned cold day too, even with all the trees blocking wind on Delta range.

Congrats on Marksman- although it is pretty bloody easy. 56 out of 69 on the PWT 3, and you only need to score hits, not groupings... On Monday the vast majority of failures were on the 1, since you don't get the flyer anymore, with only the four best shots counting...


Edited by brihard - 23 January 2008 at 10:40pm

Marksman is junk on our quals.

We shoot a 250 point system.
190-209 Marksman
210-219 Sharpshooter
220-250 Expert

Targets are scored by rings. Black is 5 points, then 4 then three then 2 then 1.

You shoot 25 rounds from the 200 yd line, 5 standing, 5 kneeling, 5 sitting. Plus a 10 round rapidfire from the sitting in 60 seconds.

You shoot 20 rounds from the 300yd line 10 from the sitting and ten rapidfire from the prone.

Then you shoot 10 rounds at 500yds from the prone.

The sum of all your points is your score.


The combat portion is a pass/fail thing changes all the time so I'm not going to post it here.



Edited by Snake6 - 23 January 2008 at 10:48pm

My last Rifle Qual was 217 Sharpshooter because I liked the way the badge looked over the Expert Badge in the Marines. The Sharpshooter not only sounded cooler it has a neat Iron Cross with an Marine EGA in it.

Thou I am a Pistol Expert. We used to call it the John Woo award.

Linus wrote: Pizza-boxes are frowned upon in boot.

At least someone with a pizza box made it longer than two weeks.

I have not understood a damn thing in this thread. 

Man Bites Dog wrote: I have not understood a damn thing in this thread.

What's not to understand?

brihard wrote: PWT 2 or 3? PWT 3 is marksman; crpss rifles and crown. PWT 2 is first class shot- cross rifles alone.I was an ARSO on Monday for the NSE up here. Some of those arts and crafts types made me distinctly nervous. I don't like seeing a supply tech doing a rundown shoot with her hand on the pistol grip... Gooddamned cold day too, even with all the trees blocking wind on Delta range.Congrats on Marksman- although it is pretty bloody easy. 56 out of 69 on the PWT 3, and you only need to score hits, not groupings... On Monday the vast majority of failures were on the 1, since you don't get the flyer anymore, with only the four best shots counting...

Yeah it is pretty easy these days, I remember when i first heard the new rules...WTH? 2 weeks later the wife was the first one to get her crossed rifles

But I qual'd under the old rules(by my count) but they check under the new ones.

I lost most of my points on the serial with the gas-mask, god i hate that thing...when you have the balaclava on it fogs up like an old brass eeagle mask.

And take it easy on those NSE guys, my wife was on that range with ya ( Cpl Robert, Fin clerk), and she hasn't touched a rilfe in over a year. Heck, she didn't even know there WAS a PWT 3 lol.

And we did PWT 2 with night shoot, p rundown.

And why are the marines shooting with service rifles from so fa away? most engagements in the new wars are at <200m anyways. We ain't fighting the russians on large grassy plains anymore...

ShortyBP wrote: Thor wrote: And why are the marines shooting with service rifles from so fa away? most engagements in the new wars are at <200m anyways. We ain't fighting the russians on large grassy plains anymore... It's what they've always done. Why change? If anything, I (as an outsider, mind you) would think that long-range marksmanship is something to always teach and retain, regardless as to what present-day engagement distance is. Unless I am not looking at it the right way? So long as you also teach close-quarters... what detriment is there to strive for long-distance accuracy as well? Surely there are benefits... even if not put into use as often anymore compared to the past.

Yeah, we teach long and short range shooting. I left out the short range combat oriented section of the marksmanship qual because I don't know what is on it since they change it so often.

Navy marksmanship works about the same way as Marines, except the ribbons/medals look different. Plus the Marine marksmanship test to get qualed is probably more difficult, I'd imagine. Scores are about the same for Marksman, Sharpshooter, and Expert. I qualed Sharpshooter in boot, but we only got training on the M9. So my ribbon is (I'm a bit colorblind so who knows, maybe I'm wrong) dark blue with gold trim on the left and right side with a Bronze "S".

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