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    Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:46pm
BERKELEY, Calif. -- As six Republican senators devised a plan to yank $2.3 million in federal funding for Berkeley programs, the mayor of the famously liberal city apologized Wednesday for his hard stance against a Marine recruiting center.

Two City Council members vowed to soften their stance as well.

http://www.nbc11.com/news/15245031/d...=headlineclick

While I'm glad what Berkeley has done, this is a good example of the feds using a loophole in the Constitution, using money to control local government.


Edited by WGP guy2 - 08 February 2008 at 12:47pm
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oh man i laughed out loud so hard when i read that. 
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They reversed direction in order to keep their money. I sincerely doubt that they'll be any less hostile to the Marines then they are now, but they'll paint on a smile, and word a few official documents differently and that'll be it.

The Corps is still ostracized within the city, but now they're out the $2 million
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Why would the government want to pay for a marine recruiting center in a city that is hostile to them and does not want them there?
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Marine*


And because there is always someone who wants to enlist. Just because it's a liberal city doesn't mean there aren't people that want to serve their country.

""I was under the impression that we have the right of free speech," said Xanne Joi of Code Pink. "To me, I thought free speech meant you get to say what you want without recrimination.""

Oh, you can say what you want, but don't expect to be rewarded for a position that most of the country disagrees with.


I say still take the 2.3 mil away just to show we won't take that kind of attitude toward any of the military.

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dont they get funding by letting the recruiters in? there for they arnt trying to "take away" money as much as not give it to them.

take the money anyways...use it instead to build a base in the city... a jet base...
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:


I say still take the 2.3 mil away just to show we won't take that kind of attitude toward any of the military.


Yeah! Either you like the marines, or you geeeeeeeiit out.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Marine*

And you wonder why people mock you about the marine business...

"No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable."
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"marine"




Marine   << strike 1 for inproper grammar. Marine is a proper nown so it's capitalized noob>>

Edited by Evil Elvis - 08 February 2008 at 4:56pm
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

"marine"

 
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Originally posted by Dumbass Kalifornian Dumbass Kalifornian wrote:

Senators sitting 3,000 miles away are trying to take food away from the children of Berkeley," said Cooper. "Why? Because the Marines and the city aren't playing nice -- and that's just not OK."


That 2.3mil was allocated for transportation funding, not food.

Telling someone who should be more than welcome to leave isn't very nice either.
I kind of want to fly out there just to walk in and enlist while Code Pink is there.

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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:


I say still take the 2.3 mil away just to show we won't take that kind of attitude toward any of the military.
Yeah! Either you like the marines, or you geeeeeeeiit out.


Did I say that? No.

The gov't is allowed to spend money how they want, and if they don't want to send it to a city who disrespects the military, that is their decision and right, is it not?

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

The gov't is allowed to spend money how they want,

No.

Quote and if they don't want to send it to a city who disrespects the military, that is their decision and right, is it not?

Not necessarily.

"No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable."
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Originally posted by Susan Storm Susan Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

The gov't is allowed to spend money how they want,


No.


Quote and if they don't want to send it to a city who disrespects the military, that is their decision and right, is it not?


Not necessarily.



When it comes to ear marked money, yes they can. This is a case in point.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

When it comes to ear marked money, yes they can.

No, it cannot.

Laws (including the constitution) governing government spending still apply.  Congress cannot unilaterally make exceptions to existing law.

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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:

Why would the government want to pay for a marine recruiting center in a city that is hostile to them and does not want them there?


im sure they're recruiting people.  as retarded as the govt can be sometimes, they wont keep a recruiting station open if no one is signing up.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

we won't take that kind of attitude toward any of the military.


I am quoting this again, because it is frightening.
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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

we won't take that kind of attitude toward any of the military.
I am quoting this again, because it is frightening.


How about you quote the WHOLE thing so it's not taken out of context... then again you're a journalism major and that's your job; take things out of context to spin it your way.

People are allowed to disrespect the military in that manner and I'm not allowed to disagree with it?

That make sense...sure does.

Edited by Linus - 08 February 2008 at 3:26pm

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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:

Why would the government want to pay for a marine recruiting center in a city that is hostile to them and does not want them there?

Because the Marines don't just pack up and go when things get tuff.

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