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    Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:10pm
I'll show you what real production looks like as soon as I find the USB cable for the camera.

That said, I used the following:

4G      Local Apple Cider (Filtered)
1G      Water
1#      Crystal Malt Extract
1ea     Pitchable Lab-Strain Champagne Yeast
1/2tsp Irish Moss
1ea     Cinnamon Stick

I boiled 1g of Cider with 1G water and 1# malt extract for 5 min, added in the Irish Moss (clarifier) and boiled for 10 min, added in the cinnamon and continued to boil for 5 more minutes. Racked the resultant wort through my sparging bag (think fine mesh bag) and then added the other 3 gallons of apple cider. Stirred the wort until it hit 80*F and pitched in the yeast. Racked it again into the primary fermentation vessel (carboy) and popped on the air-lock. Should be done fermenting in about 7-9 days for primary fermentation. I'll check the specific gravity and if the alcohol percentage is high enough, I'll go straight to bottle with a little priming sugar or honey (if it needs the floral flavor of the honey). If it isn't high enough, I'll run a secondary fermentation with a stronger yeast strain and then go to bottle after another week.

____ Update!_____

She's fermenting nicely! So much so that the "raft" that forms on top of the cider as it ferments is moving around on it's own due to the carbon dioxide release from the yeast cells.



That's what a Cider rig should look like boys and girl.

Edited by tallen702 - 16 September 2008 at 11:17pm
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Should be done fermenting in about 7-9 days for primary fermentation.
I always thought it took a lot longer than that for some reason.

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Originally posted by notXXscared notXXscared wrote:

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Should be done fermenting in about 7-9 days for primary fermentation.
I always thought it took a lot longer than that for some reason.
Secondary fermentation in the bottle takes the longest.

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How much for a bottle?

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Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

How much for a bottle?Do you ship to JMU?


Free, and I'll drop it by on my way to Charleston, WV for vacation. I'm in DC, so I run right through Harrisonburg rather frequently.
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Can I get a bottle?

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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

How much for a bottle?Do you ship to JMU?


Free, and I'll drop it by on my way to Charleston, WV for vacation. I'm in DC, so I run right through Harrisonburg rather frequently.


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I've yet to go to your place, but I'm like 30 minutes away, and I was wondering if it would be a good place to go?
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This thread prompted me to steal a Hornsby's from my roommate.

edit- I've realized that Hornsby's is inferior to Woodchuck and Strongbow. Btw, Tallen, have you ever had a Rodenbach Redbach?


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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


This thread prompted me to steal a Hornsby's from my roommate.edit- I've realized that Hornsby's is inferior to Woodchuck and Strongbow. Btw, Tallen, have you ever had a Rodenbach Redbach?


Hornsby's is indeed inferior, however woodchuck and strongbow are inferior to Magners. As for the Rodenbach, yes, I have. It is superior to a lot of kriek beers out there, but I still prefer framboise.

I'm interested to see how this particular batch of cider works out. I didn't use a recipe, which can be risky, but my potential ABV is around 8% so I know I've got enough food in there for the yeast to do it's job. The only worry I have is that the yeast took 5 days of transit to get to me and sat in a fed-ex truck for two very hot days. If I don't get fermentation within a few days, I'll probably have to go get some yeast nutrient and some new lab-strains from a local shop. That said, I think it'll be fine as the poppet in the airlock is at it's topmost point even though the wort is cooling. That means something in there is alive and producing CO2.

As for predatorr's question, yes, my restaurant is more than worth it for the 30min drive. Just ask Whale and Shorty.
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hell, just from what i've heard... i'm trying to make my way out there from wisconsin.


of course there's other things out east i want to see.
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I really want to try and make some but I have no clue how I will get it to turn out.
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Shaweet.

I'll be sure to be in when you're there, make sure my food doesn't
have an surprises.  Maybe I'll make me some cider...return the favor.
Forum cider making contest?
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Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

Shaweet.

I'll be sure to be in when you're there, make sure my food doesn't
have an surprises.  Maybe I'll make me some cider...return the favor.
Forum cider making contest?

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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

hell, just from what i've heard... i'm trying to make my way out there from wisconsin.of course there's other things out east i want to see.


...like me?

I'm sure I can find tons of people to buy some from you Tallen. All under 21. Ah, college.
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As it is illegal to sell home-brew, let alone to someone under the age of 21, not a chance Pariel.
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I want to say I've had Magner's before, but I'm not sure. At the very least, I've seen it somewhere. Can't find it anywhere around here though. There's a shop in Lima that has an amazing import and microbrew section. Next time I'm down there, I'll look for it.

I like Framboise better than Redbach as well, but I haven't had a Redbach for so long, I miss them. My friend's bar used to stock them. Much more of a sour cherry taste than Framboise Kriek.

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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

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woodchuck and strongbow are my ciders of choice.
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I'm jealous Tallen. I keep telling myself I want to give home-brewing(beer though), I just don't have the extra cash to put towards the kit right now, and I worry about the effort involved.
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