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    Posted: 23 February 2009 at 11:22am
Ee probably thinks this is a thread about his "mod" behavior.
 
But, no.
 
This is about Obama's latest venture. Taking money from the 92 percent of American mortgage holders and giving it to the 8 percent who are defaulting... tarp 2 in other words.
 
Of course it is sad to lose a house. I remember when my parents house was put on the auction block as a kid. Traumatic stuff...
 
But, they didn't pay their bills... The Bible is clear. "If you don't work, you don't eat."
 
I guess Obama's pastor missed that part... When he was focusing on other things...
 
But, today, we are entering a new place in America. One where we reward the people who don't follow the rules. Government has been living with different standards for years, its only fitting that they bring others into the fold.
 
We give to people who live above their means, and spend more than they bring in. Then the people who follow the rules, get penalized. And forget the people that actually own these notes... Those legal contracts can now be changed by the courts... Thats good for future business...
 
Great article on the issue.
 
 
Is this right or wrong?
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Old. We had this discussion last week. Except we left out the irrelevant Bible crap.
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separation of church and state etc,
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

The Bible is clear. "If you don't work, you don't eat."
 


The Bible is clear on a lot of things, like:

Originally posted by The Book of Matthew The Book of Matthew wrote:

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


So how is that compound with the big TV treating you?


Edited by agentwhale007 - 23 February 2009 at 11:54am
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Snap.
u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted

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behave yourself.



Edited by Reb Cpl - 23 February 2009 at 8:08pm
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

The Bible is clear. "If you don't work, you don't eat."
 


The Bible is clear on a lot of things, like:

Originally posted by The Book of Matthew The Book of Matthew wrote:

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


So how is that compound with the big TV treating you?


Fe just got schooled, though i doubt he will even acknowledge the existence of whales post.


Edited by Eville - 23 February 2009 at 12:11pm
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I'd flame back, but it is clear that the mods will strike my flames. while ignoring others...
 
So go ahead and pile on. whales was pretty weak, for a journalism major...I would expect much more...
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that was not a flame.  He was simply pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. 
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Guess the fear instilled in us from the Reaper mask is wearing off.
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You are all being childish.  Stop it.
 
That said, there was a fairly lengthy thread on this subject last week.  Perhaps the conversation could be continued there:  http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=180383
 
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Great, so now he will taint my religion free thread with Right Wing Christian Hypocrisy.
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Using the bible to make decisions pretty much discredits you in my opinion.

Do you condemn eating shellfish, or combining textiles too? What about different crops in one field?
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

The Bible is clear. "If you don't work, you don't eat."
 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 
But, they didn't pay their bills... The Bible is clear. "If you don't work, you don't eat."
 
I guess Obama's pastor missed that part... When he was focusing on other things...
 
 
Really?  My Bible doesn't say that.  Granted I haven't checked all translations, but still...
 
As to Obama's pastor - maybe he was focused on Proverbs 11, Luke 14, 1 John 3, Acts 20, Psalms 140, Luke 6...   the list goes on.
 
 
 
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The Bible also says some funny things about a woman and a talking snake.

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"If a man will not work, he shall not eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10
 
Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4
 
How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest -- and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man. Proverbs 6:9-11
 

Proverbs 11

 1 The Lord hates it when people use scales to cheat others.
      But he is delighted when people use honest weights.
 2 When pride comes, shame follows.
      But wisdom comes to those who are not proud.
 3 Those who do what is right are guided by their honest lives.
      But those who aren't faithful are destroyed by their trickery.
 4 Wealth isn't worth anything when God judges you.
      But doing what is right saves you from death.
 5 The ways of honest people are made straight because they do what is right.
      But those who do what is wrong are brought down by their own sins.
 6 Godly people are saved by doing what is right.
      But those who aren't faithful are trapped by evil longings.
 7 When an evil man dies, his hope dies with him.
      Everything he expected to gain from his power will be lost.
 8 Those who do right are saved from trouble.
      But trouble comes on those who do wrong.
 9 With their words ungodly people destroy their neighbors.
      But those who do what is right escape because of their knowledge.
 10 When those who do right succeed, their city is glad.
      When those who do wrong die, people shout for joy.
 11 The blessing of honest people builds up a city.
      But the words of sinners destroy it.
 12 A person who has no sense makes fun of his neighbor.
      But a man who has understanding controls his tongue.
 13 Those who talk about others tell secrets.
      But those who can be trusted keep things to themselves.
 14 Without the guidance of good leaders a nation falls.
      But many good advisers can save it.
 15 Anyone who puts up money for what someone else owes will certainly suffer.
      But a person who doesn't agree to pay up for someone else is safe.
 16 A woman who has a kind heart gains respect.
      But men who are not kind gain only wealth.
 17 A kind man benefits himself.
      But a mean person brings trouble on himself.
 18 Those who do what is wrong really earn nothing.
      But those who plant what is right will certainly be rewarded.
 19 Right living leads to life.
      But anyone who runs after evil will die.
 20 The Lord hates those whose hearts are twisted.
      But he is pleased with those who live without blame.
 21 You can be sure that sinners will be punished.
      And you can also be sure that godly people will go free.
 22 A beautiful woman who has no sense
      is like a gold ring in a pig's nose.
 23 What godly people long for ends only in what is good.
      But what sinners hope for ends only in God's anger.
 24 Some give freely but get even richer.
      Others don't give what they should but get even poorer.
 25 Anyone who gives a lot will succeed.
      Anyone who renews others will be renewed.
 26 People call down curses on those who store up grain for themselves.
      But blessing makes those who are willing to sell feel like kings.
 27 Anyone who looks for what is good finds favor.
      But bad things happen to a person who plans to do evil.
 28 Those who trust in their riches will fall.
      But those who do right will be as healthy as a green leaf.
 29 Those who bring trouble on their families will receive nothing but wind.
      And foolish people will serve wise people.
 30 The fruit that godly people bear is like a tree of life.
      And those who lead others to do what is right are wise.
 31 Godly people get what they should get on earth.
      So ungodly people and sinners will certainly get what they should get!
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bruce Banner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2009 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

"If a man will not work, he shall not eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10
 
 
Yep - that's what my Bible says too.
 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4
 

Proverbs 11

 
 4 Wealth isn't worth anything when God judges you.
      But doing what is right saves you from death.
 


Surely i do not need to make it any more obvious...
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