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merc
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Topic: service rant.Posted: 28 March 2009 at 3:13pm |
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im a little ticked cuz a guy gave me crap today because im not enlisted.
most of you know im a civilian employee for the navy. I took an(the) oath to serve my country, I signed a 5 year contract with the United States Navy saying I would serve the fleet. Every day I go to work and expose myself to extreme hazards for my country. how is my service any less than his? is it boot camp? i have 4 years of training before i can be considered for a mechanics position in my trade (40hrs a week + school at night on my time) i have respect for the service, but dont be a tool if someone is serving their country differently than you do/did. T&O? |
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 3:18pm |
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There are always going to be the people who think that way, that think they deserve some sort of special constant thanking for doing it. They even exist on this forum.
You cannot do anything about it really other than just shrug it off and know they represent the minority mindset. |
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Kayback
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 3:33pm |
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There are pricks in any walk of life.
Sucks you got the short end there. KBK |
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GI JOES SON
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 3:34pm |
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it happens...there are people like that. likewise i've met members of other branches that crap on me for being army, and even by--this was my favorite-- the national guard, for being a cadet.
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 5:43pm |
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Dealing with pricks like that is why I want to persue a career in veterinary medicine, the dogs/cats/cows/horses can't say stupid stuff to you.
You have nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, my hat is off to you for your service and I applaud you for it. Edited by Reb Cpl - 29 March 2009 at 12:10pm |
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 5:52pm |
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It's the same crap I get from grunts. But they don't complain when I bring a tanker full of water or give them a ride in the back of a seven tone instead of walking. You support people. With out you others wouldnt be able to do their job. Your doing something for your country and the Navy. So he can just buzz off.
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 6:00pm |
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what did he say?... give us the play by play of what happened...
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merc
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 7:05pm |
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place that i was trying to make a purchase at offered a military discount. i asked about it and he asked if i was military.
i told him i work for the navy and he told me that wasn't good enough, told me to come back if i joined the military... it was a few more words than that and he had a real attitude about it... i dont mind if a place doesnt offer a discount, or even if they only allow it to go to active duty, but to have an attitude when i have hundreds of dollars to spend... i spent 50$ more at the next place (got 100$ gift card) and dont mind spending the extra $ (not really extra cuz i got a gift card) at an establishment that had kind people behind the counter. |
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 8:47pm |
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Yeah, I'd have told him where to put it and done the same as you. That's just....I dont even know....
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 1:53am |
well thats cuz cadets R <wimps> Edited by Rambino - 30 March 2009 at 11:31am |
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 2:28am |
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come to ny and say that. lets go
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warman
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 2:44am |
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If you were enlisted, and went for a direct commission I wouldn't care. But ROTC puke.....next time I'm in ny I'll be there with bells on.
P.S. Get riled up ahhaaha |
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 3:11am |
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Why don't you just whip them out right here and see who has the bigger one?
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 3:17am |
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haha. In all honesty I have had good officers and bad officers. Most of my good officers were a product of ROTC, the good ones were usually enlisted previously. I have a bit of a bias but whatever.
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merc
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 8:11am |
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^ need to edit your post...
while im sure ROTC to officer is a lot like becoming an engineer without being on the floor 1st. its still the smart way to get into the military... 01 makes a lot more than that their 1st year... question: does ROTC count towards your served time for leave? civi side we get 4hrs per 2wks for 1st 3 years then 3-15yrs its 6hrs per 2wks, then after 15 its 8hrs per 2wks. they pay for his school, give him money, and he gets that little O before the number in his rank... my step dad makes 60k with 20 years as an E7. |
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GI JOES SON
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 9:07am |
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yeah, my bad warman,..i was a little out of it last night. wasn't trying to square off.
some interesting people get commissioned, but not all of us are dumb enough to go ask for batteries for chem lights. thats all i'm going to say about that rotc years do not count toward our time served, basically because its so broken up. if you do the math, its only 2 weekends a year for training exercises, and 4 hours a week for freshman and sophmore, and 8 hours a week for juniors and seniors. so to count that as active duty time would be a giant slap in the face to people who are actually on active duty. also warman, we do have some E5s who are in rotc after being deployed because it was easier to use the GI bill to get a degree through rotc than doing ocs |
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merc
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 10:09am |
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i know it wouldent count as time towards retirement, maybe im thinking about active counting in the civy world or vise versa. cant remember but we have some people who come in making a WHOLE lot more money than the rest of us.
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 11:58am |
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DOesn't matter what they think, just know the fact that you still are serving the country in your own way.
Take solace in the fact you probably have more education, and therefore, smarter, then that guy. |
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 1:09pm |
E-5s, in my experience, are generally useless and a drain on society. But that's just *my* bias coming out.
Edited by brihard - 29 March 2009 at 1:11pm |
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Posted: 29 March 2009 at 4:50pm |
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Merc,
Were you dealing with a civilian employee, active duty doing a second job or ex military? Was it an on-base or off-base facility? So many unanswered questions. Either way though, a simple "I'm sorry the discount is only for active duty personnel" would probably have been sufficient. (It would have been good business as well.) My view as ex-military is generally as long as someone is doing an honest days work for an honest days pay they are serving this country in some form or another and they have nothing to be ashamed of.* *Except for financial sector CEOs and journalists. (Which reminds me; I haven't received my thanks for serving yet today and I think it's Whale's turn. ) |
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