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    Posted: 30 May 2009 at 8:15am
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

American capitalism gone with a whimper
Front page / Opinion / Columnists
27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru           


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It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

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I didn't read what you posted because I saw the url. Are you trying to pass off anything from pravada as serious?

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Well it could be the Daily Kos, NY Times, MSNBC, Huffington Post, or even the DNC Weekly News Release, all are just as believable. At least the Russians know a duck when they see it and hear it quack.



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You're comparing pravada to the New York Times?

For an example.

You are comparing this to this?

Seriously?

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Seriously, wow.

You realize that pravda is essentially a giant joke, right OS?
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lol....I really do find the whole "socialism" argument to be simply asinine....I argued about it for a while....Now I can't even get myself to bother....

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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

You're comparing pravada to the New York Times?

For an example.

You are comparing this to this?

Seriously?


When did you become me?

You are right though. Your argument aside, I don't understand how you lump in the NYT, one of the more time-tested newspapers in the country, with a blog and a TV station.
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Duh, it's because they're both evil leftist Commies....I think the NYT is right up there with the ACLU on the list of organizations with undeserved bad raps....

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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

I didn't read what you posted because I saw the url. Are you trying to pass off anything from pravada as serious?


If it makes the argument he wants it to, it's 100% credible.
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Wait, OS is going to believe what Pravda says? Aren't they the same paper that used to talk about how the proletariat in the evil capitalist west were rising up against their oppressors every other week when it was still the USSR?
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Just an interesting look at how other nations see us. And the Russians have dealt with what Obama and crew are designing, all they did was change the Czars for Commisars, a differant form of elitist, I am still trying to comprehend the Government Motors (GM)take over and other grabs into the private sector by government.
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I tend to prefer the onion for all my news.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Just an interesting look at how other nations see us. And the Russians have dealt with what Obama and crew are designing, all they did was change the Czars for Commisars, a differant form of elitist, I am still trying to comprehend the Government Motors (GM)take over and other grabs into the private sector by government.


You'd rather the government give GM a lot of taxpayer money and NOT monitor what they do with it?

That's even more stupid than letting GM go under and letting thousands lose jobs, entire lives, and upsetting the economy more than it is.


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So we should look into why the government let, Hudson, Studebaker, Tucker, Rambler, etc vanish from the american market. When you make a product that does not sell, and the labor costs outweigh the actual materials cost, you have a problem. GM should die, or let each make seperate and make a go of it, review union contracts, and actually build a product that has quality, and people want. The truck and SUV sales are the backbone of thier sales and yet will be the first target of the Government for more "efficient" vehicles. Last Government motors gave the world the LADA and YUGO, both "great successes".
I am still looking for parts for my AMC 401 Javelin, another car company that vanished without government assistance.
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The whole "swapped Czars for Commissars" bit is a cop out that pertains mainly to the Red Army and not the former Soviet Union as a whole.

Until I see collective farms and Gulags spring up, I'm gonna have to disagree with those who say we are going uber socialist. If anything, the Obama administration's stated plans are less socialist than those of FDR and JFK.

Oh, and how's the VA and army pension treating you OS? You proud beacon of anti socialism.
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Pravda is the Russian version of the Weekly World News.


and I am sure OS wants GM to fail in his secret plot to become Kia Motors Spokesman.
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Government should stay out of business like they should stay out of religion... They have their hands in too much. Its called "free enterprise" for a reason.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Just an interesting look at how other nations see us.


Wow. That's like saying that people in Russia read The National Enquirer to see how we see them. Wow...
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