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    Posted: 18 August 2009 at 12:25am
You know its driving me insane. I am in 3rd year electrical engineering, which is arguably the hardest engineering, and engineering is already... insane. anyway, I do great, but this year I had to take first year chem, and I just cant get it.

So many conventions, nomenclature, and phrasing seems so outdated and confusing, Just cant take it. I try to refuse memorizing anything in school, becuase I have always felt that if you understand you don't need to memorize, but chem is proving me wrong.

Anyone else hate chem as much as me?
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I didn't think chem was too bad.

Took it first semester last year.

And EE is easy. :wheresthedodgywhenineedit:
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I'm glad I took Chem 1 and 2 Freshman year, because that was useless.

2 is way worse though.  At least in chem 1 the topics are vaguely interesting.  Solubility and Acids is the dullest set of topics I've ever encountered.
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I never found chemistry that rough. Physics wasn't bad, but biology was always my Achilles heel, just because of the sheer amount of information that was thrown at me.
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you obviously never tried biomedical engineering. 

its like an EE degree... but harder.
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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

you obviously never tried biomedical engineering. 

its like an EE degree... but harder.


Personally, I think it's unfortunate that so many BME students just use it as a pre-med degree.  I think there's some pretty awesome work going in the field, but over half of the kids in our BME department are pre-med.  Not that we don't need more doctors.
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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

you obviously never tried biomedical engineering. 

its like an EE degree... but harder.

thats impresive you have an EE degree and biomed degree.

yes, and obviously there is harder chem then first year...

and I dont mean to get into a pissing contest about "whos degree is harder" or anything like that, just hate when people talk in absolutes for somthing they have no idea about.


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At least you don't have to take Organic Chem. Jesus Christ...

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I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.

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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.


He was just trying to use big words.
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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.


Except it's math.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.


Except it's math.


How'd you get through the rest of chemistry without math?
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.


Except it's math.


How'd you get through the rest of chemistry without math?
Stoichiometry is the pretty much the foundation of all higher chemistry. Balancing equations, measuring anything in a lab, carrying out reactions, etc, it's all stoichiometry. That's the reason I thought it was odd to love Chem and hate Stoichiometry. Sure, BioChem and Organic Chem are less math-intensive than most Physical, Analytical, or General Chemistry courses, but the stoichiometry is still there.

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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I loved chem.


I hated stoichiometry.
To me, this seems paradoxical. Stoichiometry pretty much is chemistry.


Except it's math.
How'd you get through the rest of chemistry without math?


I'm excellent at science, and I suck at math. It makes the math based sciences.... interesting.   I aced all of chem, a senior level class, my sophomore year, even though I struggled at the math portion.



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Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

you obviously never tried biomedical engineering. 

its like an EE degree... but harder.

thats impresive you have an EE degree and biomed degree.

yes, and obviously there is harder chem then first year...

and I dont mean to get into a pissing contest about "whos degree is harder" or anything like that, just hate when people talk in absolutes for somthing they have no idea about.


i don't have any engineering degree yet.  I started out as a biomed student at Milwaukee School of Engineering, and dropped out after the first year.  it was way too hard.  I'm now a medical technology / medical laboratory scientist major and very happy.


RE: BE students using it as a stepping stone to med school, well, that's because it is one of the best degrees to get before med school.  Plus, if you don't get in, you can still have a killer job... or do what my friend did and go into perfusion and work heart and lung machines.  
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