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Lies != moral education
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Lies != moral education


If anything, lies = immoral education. After all, is it not immoral to prevent the freedom of choice? That includes your choice to examine all the facts of any given argument and decide for yourself whether evolution, creationism, intelligent design, or FSM is the truth.
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And seeing as how public school pretty much gives you that choice then it is all good.
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A few points on my opinions about homeschooling-
 
A:) You can't teach religion alongside scientific theory. If anyone wants to challenge this, I'll be glad to give you very concrete reasoning.
 
B:) It's a persons right to homeschool their kids. That being said, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Those are very different ideas. That, however comes with the stipulation of...
 
C:) You should have to have some form of formal training to educate your kids. You can argue about this all day, but in the end unless you have some form of training (at least some kind of degree in something) , you're shortchanging your kids their future. That's WRONG.
 
D:) Morales =/= Formal Education. Try getting a PhD or a JD with morals on your resume.
 
E:) I was homeschooled. My negative opinion of it is from experience. You can preach to me all day how the school is giving your kids bad morals, etc etc, but in the end it's the parents' job to teach their kids how to live, the school's job to teach scientific theory / fact / whatever you choice to call it. And if it's your BELIEF that your kids should be homeschooled, you should start at an early age preparing yourself to be a TEACHER, not decide when you're in your late twenties early thirties with an associates or, worse yet, a GED, that you don't trust the school system and give your kids an unqualified education that will screw them over for life. Trust me, this is a very difficult hump to get over in life.
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When I did homeschooling 3 years ago it was on the internet and they had actual teachers that you could call for help if you needed.

It was pretty neat but I couldnt keep myself on track so I dropped it and went to a private school instead, because the public high-schools around where i live are wayy ghetto.


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I went to a private christian school during middle school.  The "science" book didn't even mention evolution.  It actually taught the creation of the earth as the seven days deal.  
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A good friend of mine was homeschooled. He is not a religious nut, in fact, he is very well informed about all religions and theories. He is probably one of the brightest people I have ever met also.

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Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:

I went to a private christian school during middle school.  The "science" book didn't even mention evolution.  It actually taught the creation of the earth as the seven days deal.  
I remember in my six grade science book, the biology section, at the catholic school I attended, was actually about evolution. I'm not sure if this was before or after John Paul II's statement about there being no doubt anymore and it being fact but it's still interesting.

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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

A few points on my opinions about homeschooling-
 
A:) You can't teach religion alongside scientific theory. If anyone wants to challenge this, I'll be glad to give you very concrete reasoning.
 
B:) It's a persons right to homeschool their kids. That being said, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Those are very different ideas. That, however comes with the stipulation of...
 
C:) You should have to have some form of formal training to educate your kids. You can argue about this all day, but in the end unless you have some form of training (at least some kind of degree in something) , you're shortchanging your kids their future. That's WRONG.
 
D:) Morales =/= Formal Education. Try getting a PhD or a JD with morals on your resume.
 
E:) I was homeschooled. My negative opinion of it is from experience. You can preach to me all day how the school is giving your kids bad morals, etc etc, but in the end it's the parents' job to teach their kids how to live, the school's job to teach scientific theory / fact / whatever you choice to call it. And if it's your BELIEF that your kids should be homeschooled, you should start at an early age preparing yourself to be a TEACHER, not decide when you're in your late twenties early thirties with an associates or, worse yet, a GED, that you don't trust the school system and give your kids an unqualified education that will screw them over for life. Trust me, this is a very difficult hump to get over in life.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

A few points on my opinions about homeschooling-
 
A:) You can't teach religion alongside scientific theory. If anyone wants to challenge this, I'll be glad to give you very concrete reasoning.
 
B:) It's a persons right to homeschool their kids. That being said, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Those are very different ideas. That, however comes with the stipulation of...
 
C:) You should have to have some form of formal training to educate your kids. You can argue about this all day, but in the end unless you have some form of training (at least some kind of degree in something) , you're shortchanging your kids their future. That's WRONG.
 
D:) Morales =/= Formal Education. Try getting a PhD or a JD with morals on your resume.
 
E:) I was homeschooled. My negative opinion of it is from experience. You can preach to me all day how the school is giving your kids bad morals, etc etc, but in the end it's the parents' job to teach their kids how to live, the school's job to teach scientific theory / fact / whatever you choice to call it. And if it's your BELIEF that your kids should be homeschooled, you should start at an early age preparing yourself to be a TEACHER, not decide when you're in your late twenties early thirties with an associates or, worse yet, a GED, that you don't trust the school system and give your kids an unqualified education that will screw them over for life. Trust me, this is a very difficult hump to get over in life.

Your parents sucked.

Homeschooling, aside from early interactions with women, has proven to be very advantageous for me.
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I can't believe you're trying to paint homeschooling with one gigantic brush.
There are so many factors which will contribute to the overall positive or negative outcome that trying to lump it all together as a good thing or an evil thing is absolutely ridiculous.
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"a growing home-school education market that encompasses more than 1.5 million students in the U.S."
 
 
"Slatter said home-school material sales reach about $1 billion annually in the U.S."
 
 
So each parent that homeschools spends around $666,000 per year for homeschool materials?...
 
 
 
The media always makes the homeschool size MUCH smaller than it actually is...
 
I read that it was way over 2,000,000 in 2008. Personally I know about 15 families that have started in the past year.
 
I bet the true number in the US is much, much higher than that as of 2010.
 
 
1999 850,000 homeschooled
2003 1,100,000 homeschooled
2007 1,500,000 homeschooled
2010?
 
 
Our public education system is a joke today. Much better education can be had at home, with parents that are focused on "Johnny" instead of teaching to a test, and covering all the politically correct topics. While ignoring the fact that half the public school class can't write or read at their grade level...
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Just because half he class is retarded doesn't mean that your child will be retarded because he or she goes to that school.  Schools do have honors/ advanced placement classes that allow students to push themselves.  Public school isn't bad, but what you get out of it is based on what you put in.  You don't have to teach your kid everything yourself at home for him or her to get a good education, you just have to encourage him or her to put forth the effort at school and be able to help your kid with homework.  The ones who are failing are doing so because they don't care.  They don't care because their parents don't care.  Those students who do care and excel do so because their parents have taught them to care about school.  
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you do realize that kids do not learn certain social skills when they are couped up at home right? they also dont have a chance to form an opinion about other things other than what you tell them is right
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Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

you do realize that kids do not learn certain social skills when they are couped up at home right? they also dont have a chance to form an opinion about other things other than what you tell them is right
 
Slacker please...
 
 
The whole "socialization" argument is so tired... Tell me, when in life do people ever spend 8 hours a day with other people their exact same age for 12 years....
 
ONLY in public school.
 
My kids can carry on a conversation with anyone... Not just someone that is their exact same age. I see so many social misfits that apply for jobs at my company, and they were all public educated. Does that mean public education falls down on their "socialization"?...
 
 
 
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