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    Posted: 08 August 2010 at 10:27pm
With Michelle in Spain at $75K a day (one good annual salary for one US worker, or two mediocre annual salaries) giving work to non Americans supporting her 'vacation. Wouldn't it have been a better move to 'vacation' in America, spend the money here, and keep Americans in work supporting this 'vacation'. Visit a National Park heaven knows they need the influx of money, tour NYC again could use the money, but NOOOOO in these economic times lets spend money in Spain. Really endearing Obama, Obama family, and crew to the American tourist worker.

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She brought FORTY PEOPLE on vacation?! What? Do they just take over anywhere they go? Thats too many people to be able to bring along anywhere IMO. I hate traveling with more than like, 4 people cause everyone wants to do different things.

Also, 70 SS agents. /:

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The lie that she was travelling with 40 people was taken care of by the East Wing a day or two ago.  She doesn't have 40 friends with her, its two friends and their 4 daughters.  Gosh, I LOVE sensationalism.

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Still a crap load of money paid for by American taxes...

Edited by Linus - 08 August 2010 at 10:59pm

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Oh. Still.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

paid for by American taxes...

Was it? The Obamas were quite independently wealthy before coming to the White House. 
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Still a crap load of money paid for by American taxes...

Sure is, if it was all taxpayer funded, which is highly unlikely.  Still waiting to hear the actual taxpayer pricetag from the White House.  There are mixed reports as to what the party itself is paying for, and what taxpayers are paying for.

If taxpayer money wasn't involved, I wouldn't complain about her being in Spain compared to the US.  Sure, it'd be nice for her to spend money within America, but I wouldn't want to limit my options to just America given the possibility to travel to somewhere like Spain.

However, with the taxpayer chunk of money, I'd much prefer it was put back into the American economy.  Not that the majority of the money isn't going to her American security detail and general entourage, but still.


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She is paying for the vacation, not the small army of Secret Service agents and gear.  That's what is costing over $60,000/day billed to the American tax payers.
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I really dont care where she goes. If its her money, she can do as she pleases.
 
Would you care if she took this trip after their term is up?
 
And really, dont you think she will have SS agents with her no matter where she is? So either way....people will be paying for the agents....

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Exactly. 

She is going to have some detail of U.S. Secret Service with her for the rest of her life, most likely, because of her current position. 

Is she not allowed to go anywhere in the world outside of the U.S. for the rest of her life? 
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Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:

And really, dont you think she will have SS agents with her no matter where she is? So either way....people will be paying for the agents....
And those agents have to eat, if necessary rent cars or other modes of transport and sleep in hotel rooms.  That money could be put to good use being recirculated here stateside.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

She is going to have some detail of U.S. Secret Service with her for the rest of her life, most likely, because of her current position.
Only if she or her husband pays for it.  If I'm not mistaken, past presidents after Clinton no longer have free lifetime Secret Service protection any longer.  They have to foot the bill after their term of office is up.
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She can go where she wants.



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As the wife of the US President with the entire country facing an serious economic crisis, the true sign of LEADERSHIP would be for the First Family, as an example, would be to vacation in the US to YES spread the wealth here. The 'rich' both left and right do not think, because they are above it all.

Obama and crew target the 'rich' for thier behavior, yet this.........

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Still a crap load of money paid for by American taxes...


you think that's bad? Since soldiers salaries are paid with tax dollars, you'd be surprised at what some of them buy with their pay checks. I've seen a lot of random things, and the scary part is i know that i haven't seen everything yet. So far the 25k engagement ring is the topper

edit- stormy, you're correct. Clinton was the last one to receive lifetime coverage from the secret service, the presidents to follow will only get it for ten years after they leave office, i don't know about paying them to stay later though; it's definitely possible


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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

She is going to have some detail of U.S. Secret Service with her for the rest of her life, most likely, because of her current position.
Only if she or her husband pays for it.  If I'm not mistaken, past presidents after Clinton no longer have free lifetime Secret Service protection any longer.  They have to foot the bill after their term of office is up.

It's 10 years after the president leaves office. I don't know if they have to pay for it.
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

stormy, you're correct. Clinton was the last one to receive lifetime coverage from the secret service, the presidents to follow will only get it for ten years after they leave office, i don't know about paying them to stay later though; it's definitely possible
Thanks for the correction.  I forgot about the 10 year part.


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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

As the wife of the US President with the entire country facing an serious economic crisis, the true sign of LEADERSHIP would be for the First Family, as an example, would be to vacation in the US to YES spread the wealth here. The 'rich' both left and right do not think, because they are above it all.

Obama and crew target the 'rich' for thier behavior, yet this.........
 
So... now the president and his family are not allowed to go overseas? I guess we should never go to war then.... all of our soldiers will be spending their money on items in other countries where they are stationed.

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Spending tax payer money that you recieve as compensation for service, and then spending that money 'overseas' is not as bad as just spending tax payer money when not even 'compensated' as an employee of the US.

All that this trip is spending in these economic times would have been better spend enhancing the economy of some US tourist area. Just the SS costs alone could revitalize some US tourist area, as the hotels/motels, resteraunts, attractions see a great influx of money.

BUT NO, lets spend all this money overseas, sending more of our money to another country, let them benifit, while US tourist industry is struggling in this economy.

LEADERSHIP, Barak should have told her NO, you will vacation in America and pick up our economy, and since he does not have the 'intestinal fortatude' to even do something that simple, heaven help us. LEADERSHIP in times of crisis is a hard thing to handle, and again Obama proves he can not think outside his little box, and for the morale of America, have Michelle vacation in America. Enough said about this little exercise in LEADERSHIP.
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