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ArmySniper25
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Topic: Snipers In Paintball (Read)Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:08am |
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Okay, I have read other threads about snipers in paintball, and how people hate them, and think they are useless. I can clearly see how people would see this, if you are playing speedball, a sniper is absolutely useless, however, if you are playing woodsball, your sniper is your teams MVP. He is only an important member of the team if he has a good shot, he knows how to use camoflauge to his advantage, has the patience to wait it out to have a good clear shot at his target, and have the ability to move very slowly without being detected. If he doesn't, then you are right, he is useless. I passed my U.S. Army Sniper School at Fort Benning Georgia last fall. And now i have learned these important key aspects of being a good sniper. For example, when i wear my Ghillie Suit, that I was required to make for Sniper School, one is virtually impossible to locate until the second shot is fired (if one knows how to use a sniper web properly). Also, for paintball guns in particular, a 12 inch barrel that will put a backspin on the ball will help reach maximum effectiveness. I'm not saying you should be a sniper, all I'm trying to get out is that they shouldn't be underestimated on the frontline, or woodsball field. You might say, dude your in the Army so you are thinking in terms of accual combat. Well, yes, but these same rules apply to paintball as well. |
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Glassjaw
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:10am |
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finally someone with actualy experience to back up what ive been saying
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:25am |
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People who flame other people on this topic are idiots, the only reason they think sniper are unimportant is because in paintball they are not in a life or death situation, get them on the frontline and they will be happy as can be that they have a expert marksman giving them cover. But you are right, there are ignorant people who think they know everything about everything, and you will just have to blow that off because the bottom line is that snipers help, whether you like it or not. And you know what they say, "Snipers are the best shooters on the field...but they are also the most hated by the enemy." The people that flame other people over this topic probably have a problem with snipers because they have been beaten, I wont go into detail about my sniper detail in iraq, but in paintball, I once eliminated an entire time because i knew all the important aspects of being a sniper thanks to my instructor at sniper school. |
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bravecoward
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:29am |
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you have the same range as everone else...
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Enos Shenk
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:30am |
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MMmhmmmmmmmmmm |
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Darur
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:34am |
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If only oldsoldier could see this thread. . .
Oh well, I shall explain why they are not effective. In paintball, all guns shoot the same distence, save for the flatline barrel. A sniper, by definition, is one who fires on his enemys from a position out of their range. This is about impossible, because (as stated earlier) all guns shoot the same, and even with the flatline, its almost impossible to shoot someone 150 feet away. Next, although the ghillie is great for some things, in sniping it is pointless. If your moving, the ghillie only works from a distence, and if your not, you need to keep extreamly still and have great disipline, something not many players have. And yes, I am a woodsballer, and yes, I have tried to be a sniper. P.S - Next time try the search button, this has been brought up countless times. |
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choopie911
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:36am |
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I was about to quote that too... what the heck dude? |
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:39am |
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Durar, you say a Ghillie Shuit is pointless for sniping, how so for paintball, or sniping altogether, because if you mean sniping altogetehr i think you better research your facts a little bit because, a Ghillie Suit, is one of the most effective items a sniper can have in battle. If they were useless,why would every sniper school for American and British require that every students builds there own web. but hey what do i know, I'm just a real sniper, and you play paintball, I am sorry for disagreeing with your superior knowledge of the effectiveness of sniping. But i can see how you meant that all paintball guns will fire the same distance, the the whole 12 inch barrel, with a backspin, i was thinking of something else, sorry about that.
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Homer J
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:45am |
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You were just watching the History Channel.
As for you being a "real sniper", I'm calling shenanigans. Talk to Oldsoldier, he was a real sniper. |
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Darur
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:46am |
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First off its Darur, not Durar. Second off, read what I said. I did not say it was ineffective, I said it doesnt work in paintball because unlike the military, we are not taking shots from 500 + yards. At that distence, and probably closer, its harder to see a person moving in a ghillie. However, in paintball, you are going to have to be much closer to take a shot, and if you move, you will be seen. The only use in paintball, is if you are camping (not moving), and even then, you are going to fidget, I dont care how "disiplined" you say you are. |
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Glassjaw
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:50am |
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Firstly, if i wanted i could sit in a spot for an hour+ with a ghillie suit on and not move more than an inch and im 13. now compare me to an actual military sniper, you cant. the military sniper would beat me by ten miles. but if i can lay in a bunch of leaves and bugs without moving for an extended period of time, i can only imagine what someone trained in this field could do. wanna see for yourself, come to PA and ill prove you wrong. secondly, a sniper is someone who fires upon an enemy from a concealed position. in the definition of a sniper it no where states that he/she is from afar. Edited by Glassjaw |
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:54am |
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you are right i was just watching the history channel and when they showed one shot one kill and stalk then kill it reminded me of this forum and how 80% of the people on here underestimate snipers, smartass.
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Darur
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:55am |
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Oh brother, lets not bring up the definition crap again.
If you want to sit in a bush with a ghillie suit all day and light up people, go right ahead. You are excercising no skill, save for the ability to pull a 2 pounds or force a quarter inch. Face it, your not going to be the one to come here and change our minds. If you want to play "sniper", I advise you go to pbsniper.com where they belive in that stuff. |
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Glassjaw
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 2:56am |
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what makes you believe he is not a sniper? for all we know you could be a 180 year old women with two heads. |
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:00am |
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Darur, you think that being a sniper requires no skill, well you need to go and look up sniper because it requires more skill than you can ever have, its a lot more than "sittin in a ghillie suit lighting people up" and "its nothing other than pulling a trigger, you are excersizing no skill" if you went up and said that to one of our faces we would probably laugh you off the face of this earth, and damn i didnt mean for a long out conversation, this was just to be informative, but there are those ignorant people that have to start an arguement about everything, you know what please stop responding to this thread, it was supposed to prove a point, and a bunch of idiots like darur had to turn it into an arguement, so just do everyone a favor and stop responding, let this thread die.
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:04am |
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one last thing when u said u will still fidget that shows how much you know, i once stayed 12 hours straight without moving more than an inch
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Darur
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:06am |
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Good freakin lord. You sound more like a lawyer then a "sniper". I get the feeling you could make the bible sound like a testament to Satan if you wanted to. I was describing a camper, one who sits in a bush all day and lights up people. A real marine sniper does have skill, but all "snipers" in paintball are newbs too scared to go to the front. If you wish to call me an idiot, go ahead, but what makes me an idiot? Have you proven any of my points wrong? ummmm, no. On what grounds am I an idiot, or is it another word you have twisted around to suit your views? And now, I shall grant your one wish, and let this thread die. P.S - As for your part about staying still for 12 hours, thats great, I do that daily, after all its hard to move when you are asleep. Edited by Darur |
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:09am |
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oh marine snipers, so what about army snipers and of when that statement about satan, i resent that very personally, and yes i have proved come of your points wrong, and what part of let this thread die dont u understand. AND I HATE LAWYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Darur
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:11am |
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Where have you, as you said, "proved come of yours points wrong"? And your not letting this thread die. |
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ArmySniper25
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Posted: 14 August 2004 at 3:14am |
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accually when you responded to that last little remark YOU didnt let it die now i dont want to get into this, if you mean hard evidense that i have proved you wrong then know but if me and you were face to face i could NOW LET IT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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