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Are protesters un-patriotic?

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    Posted: 08 December 2004 at 9:07pm
  I personally don't agree with what a lot of the protesters out there are marching for but I still think that dissidence is a very important part of our culture. If we can't, or wont, stand up for what we think is right, even if the government disagrees we are betraying everything this nation was founded on. 

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How can you be un-patriotic protesting to defend your views of an issue? The only people that throw that around are the narrow-minded fools that cant realize that the point of america is EVERYONE can have their own views.

They stand up for what they believe, if you ask me, theyre MORE patriotic than the flag-waving fools that believe everything the president feeds them.
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You both have a point.  I can see how it could be un-pariotic because you are going against your country (in a way)

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bango Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 9:15pm

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?

I'd be ed.

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For anyone interested in going, Smitty's bro and I are going to D.C. in March to march.  Details will be forthcoming...
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Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?

I'd be ed.

Are these soldiers not supporting the soldiers?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/08/rumsfeld.troops/in dex.html

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Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?

I'd be ed.



I was under the impression that soldiers arent paid to feel.

Seriously though, if i was over in iraq, id be HAPPY that america is still the same old bitter argumentative place. That means the whole idea is working the way its supposed to.
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Supporting soldiers and supporting the war are two different things. Just because you don't agree with the war doesn't mean you have to hate the soldiers. When that crap starts is when it's bad but saying that we shouldn't be there or whatever isn't. Besides that, those protesters are trying to get those boys home.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clark Kent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?

I'd feel worse if I were a soldier fighting for democracy and freedom of speech abroad, and people at home had theirs taken away...

Protesting isn't just a freedom afforded by democracy - protesting IS democracy.  And democracy is protesting.  They are one and the same.  If we cannot, or "should not" voice our opinion, then we are not a democracy.

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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


Seriously though, if i was over in iraq, id be HAPPY that america is still the same old bitter argumentative place. That means the whole idea is working the way its supposed to.
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Exactly!

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No, they're fine.  They piss me off anyway though.
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huh?

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America was made by protestin. The whole Revolutionary war can be consider one big protest. Boston Tea Party ring any bells. The Declaration Of Independance was protesting. Freedom of speech was made for a reason. Protesting shows that our country really is free.

What I dont agree with is the protesters that resort to voilence. That is not the way to go.

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Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

huh?


They arent un patriotic, yet i am annoyed by people like the million mom search group.

Yeah im a hypocrite.
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Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?


I'd be ed.



You can protest a war and still support those who have to wage it.
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Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

It depends. If they are protesting a war, then yes. How do you think the soldiers would feel knowing that people back home don't support the things that they are doing and risking for?


I'd be ed.



You can protest a war and still support those who have to wage it.

Good point. The people who protest war a fine.....People who protest the soldiers are stupid little mofos, but I really cant hold anything against them because protesting is what makes this country free. So the people portesting soldiers.....we should put them all into a big room and ignore them.

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Wasn't it Voltaire that said "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snipa69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 11:47pm
Nope, because those who protest wars are fighting their own war back here rather than the war over seas. more power to both sides.
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Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Wasn't it Voltaire that said "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.


"I disagree with what you have to say but will fight to the death to protect your right to say it."

yes, it was voltaire.

i don't know how consistent he was with that veiwpoint though, he also said that 100 years from his death the only bibles would be for the viewing pleasure of antiquitarian thrill seakers coming to marvel and the strange things people once believed. (not a direct quote)

irony of the situation is, his former house was used to print bibles not long after his death.
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

if you ask me, theyre MORE
patriotic



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