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    Posted: 19 June 2006 at 8:47pm

I went paintballing this weekend and let one of my friends use my A-5 with e-grip and JCS adjustable trigger. For the first two rounds the gun worked great, but during a break for water the A-5 randomly started shooting. The safety was on, and the trigger was untouched. After it did that, when I pulled the trigger I could feel the switch being tripped, but it wouldn't fire. I took the CO2 tank off and put the gun down on a bench and started to dig through my gear to get a new battery and I could hear the solenoid randomly clicking with the gun just sitting on the table and no one touching it. I put a fresh battery in it, but it kept doing the same thing. After I changed the battery, I thought maybe the trigger was set up wrong so I played around with it, and I could feel and hear the switch being tripped but the solenoid wasn't firing. I eventually decided to just put the A-5 back in the truck and have my friend use a rental the rest of the day.

After we decided to call it day and go home, I took the gun out again and tried to figure out what was wrong with it, but then it was working fine. I played around with it the rest of the way home, but it worked as it was supposed to from then on. I have no idea what was wrong with it or why it started working again. It was a kinda hot day, but I've played with it before in hotter weather with no trouble.

I only have a few upgrades on it, the e-grip with the JCS trigger, and a JCS folding stock with RVA. I was using fresh Duracell 9 volt batteries.

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i would say its the trigger... i have the jcs too. try getting it perfect. look at the manual, that mite help

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I think I had a problem like this before, and what caused it was the amature pin

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Originally posted by tippya5extreme tippya5extreme wrote:

i would say its the trigger... i have the jcs too. try getting it perfect. look at the manual, that mite help


I'm pretty sure it's not the trigger, I had it perfect before we went out. I adjusted it when it started messing up too, but even after re-tuning it was randomly shooting. I even took the grip off the gun, took out the trigger, and tripped the switch by hand and it wasn't working. The only thing I can really think of is the board got messed up at some point. That or the solenoid, but I'm think it might be the board.

Originally posted by slither13 slither13 wrote:

I think I had a problem like this before, and what caused it was the amature pin


The armature pin is fine, when I took the frame off the gun and took out the trigger group, the noid would randomly fire and shoot the pin right out of the grip. Almost launched the pin into my freinds mouth at one point, lol.
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Low battery - Try a new battery first. Sometimes if a battery is too weak, it won't have enough power to push the armature pin into the sear.

Disconnected or damaged wires - If any wires become disconnected, the E-grip will not operate.

Armature pin damaged or mushroomed on ends - If the armature pin has become mushroomed on its ends, this can make it too short to engage the sear properly and should be replaced.

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Try cleaning it. Maybe some dirt or something got caught on the switch and
made it fire.
It must have become dislodged when you put it away.

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Originally posted by tippya5extreme tippya5extreme wrote:

Low battery - Try a new battery first. Sometimes if a battery is too weak, it won't have enough power to push the armature pin into the sear.


Tried that first,  no effect.

Originally posted by tippya5extreme tippya5extreme wrote:


Disconnected or damaged wires - If any wires become disconnected, the E-grip will not operate.


I'll look into that, mabey that's the problem

Originally posted by tippya5extreme tippya5extreme wrote:


Armature pin damaged or mushroomed on ends - If the armature pin has become mushroomed on its ends, this can make it too short to engage the sear properly and should be replaced.


Armature pin is fine. I've probly only put 2 or 3 cases trough the gun since I got it.

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Try cleaning it. Maybe some dirt or something got caught on the switch and made it fire. It must have become dislodged when you put it away.


I keep my gear very clean, both my guns still look almost new inside and out. I'm almost fanatical when it comes to maintenance. I looked at the switch when I was on the field and it was clean.

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Thanks for the help, I'l look into the wire thing when I get back over to my dads house. Let me know if you have any other ideas though, that might not be it.


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i would just give tippmann a call-if it is your grip that messed up than they will fix it for free

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Originally posted by tippya5extreme tippya5extreme wrote:

i would just give tippmann a call-if it is your grip that messed up than they will fix it for free


If the wires look good I'll probly do that. The wierd thing is that it started working again later, so the idea that it's a bad wire might just be it. If a wire came unsoldered or something I can fix it easily enough. Although, it'd probly be a good idea to sent it to Tippmann anyway so I don't void the warenty. Thanks for your help.
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Moisture or sweat
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Originally posted by cus98tom cus98tom wrote:

Moisture or sweat


I've played with it in the rain before without any trouble, and we had only been out there mabey 30 minutes at the most. Still posible though.
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