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    Posted: 19 November 2006 at 12:45pm
Anyone else here about this.  I guess it's about a week old, but this kid was trying to leave the library becuase he didn't have his library card past eleven or something like that.  So the cops stop him and I guess touch him or something, and he starts screaming, "Don't ****** touch me!"  Anyway the end up tazering him like 4 or 5 times because he won't stand up after being tazed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs&eurl=

^^^The actual video (Some foul words)

">http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

^^^Article

UCLA released a statement saying they were investigating.

I can understand one taze, but after that, could they not just have handcuffed the kid and carried him out?  I mean, he's 150 lbs max, he wasn't even posing a threat.  Then the police threaten to taze other kids for standing around.  I know you have to keep control, but this looks more like a power trip...

I don't even want to know how quick Jessie Jackson would have those officers castrated in the guy would have been black...

(Mods, there is some language in the video, but if it's to much, could you remove the link, and I can PM it to people rather than shutting the whole thread?)


Edited by Heres To You - 19 November 2006 at 12:46pm
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Way old and there was a thread about it.
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My fault, I searched for student taze and nothing came up...

Sorry, let it die.
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Police overstepped their bounds.



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if u dont follow the police instructions, they should be able to take out nightsticks and show the kid how much he used to appreciate the fact that he could of walked out
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Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

if u dont follow the police instructions, they should be able to take out nightsticks and show the kid how much he used to appreciate the fact that he could of walked out
He WAS walking out when the police came over to him.

EDIT: Video of his lawyer on CNN

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all i heard was he was unable to produce his i.d. and wouldnt leave

there fore the police should be able to do whatever it takes to gget this kid outa there

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There was a link on digg to a post on some forum by a student who was actually there, and who knows the kid who got tazered. Here's what he had to say:

Originally posted by Doormat Doormat wrote:

Okay kids, I'm here!

Yes, I was indeed at Powell Library at approximately 11:30 on Tuesday night, and yes I did see the entire event as it went down.

Let me start off by saying that the guy DEFINITELY was asking to get his ass kicked. He was being extremely rude with the campus patrol guys (who are college students...this was before the real UCPD got called in). He was not complying with their requests to leave the premises, and he was definitely itching for a fight. I actually know the guy and a few of his friends, and I can tell you that he's the kind of guy that loves to make trouble.

Just as a little backstory, one of the quotes the guy has on his facebook (which he now has taken down) was "I like to find the most difficult solutions to the simplest of problems".

He definitely taunted the UCPD into behaving the way they did with him.

Edit: Many people have questioned the fact that the cops tazed him and asked him to get up, and tazed him again even though he shouldn't have the capability to get up. This was not the case here to my knowledge, because the cops were using their "drive-stun" method which administers less of a jolt than normal. I believe this because anyone who can ramble on about this being the patriot act and yell at the top of his lungs should have the capability of getting up.


He also added later that a the campus police have a very good record and are usually very easy to deal with.

So it seems that the video doesn't show everything after all.
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Still the cops shouldn't do that.
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This is a curious story.

There are obviously conflicting versions, but I would be surprised if the student weren't at least acting a little aggressive on purpose.  Picking fights with authority figures is what college is all about, after all.

Which is why I am a little surprised at the CAMPUS police reaction.  These guys deal with students all day long, and know perfectly well that students are a belligerent lot.  If they went around tazing every student that was picking a fight with campus cops, they would need new batteries daily.

So against the backdrop of normal student behavior, this police action seems a little out of proportion.  But I wasn't there, of course.

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Judging by how loud he was being, and also off of the excerpt from the other kids statement who was there, he had it comming. I agree that if you can scream at the top of your lungs regarding the patriot act and then afterwards say 'I was tazered for no reason blah blah blah' without even a stitch of exhaustion in your voice, you can stand up. I've been tazered before and was able to get up afterwards. I say he had it comming and campus police did the right thing. The ball was in his court, he could have produced his ID and been done with it or calmly explained that he did not have it on him *whatever the case was* and there you have a peacefull solution.
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Originally posted by 98cboy 98cboy wrote:

Still the cops shouldn't do that.
yea they should just shoot him...
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Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

Originally posted by 98cboy 98cboy wrote:

Still the cops shouldn't do that.
yea they should just shoot him...

You know, the scary thing is that I am not sure whether you are joking or not.

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

Originally posted by 98cboy 98cboy wrote:

Still the cops shouldn't do that.
yea they should just shoot him...


You know, the scary thing is that I am not sure whether you are joking or not.


The scary thing is I kinda agree with it..e.ven if he was joking    I still say there's a lot to this story we don't know about. A video taken out of context can be very misleading
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Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

Judging by how loud he was being, and also off of the excerpt from the other kids statement who was there, he had it comming. I agree that if you can scream at the top of your lungs regarding the patriot act and then afterwards say 'I was tazered for no reason blah blah blah' without even a stitch of exhaustion in your voice, you can stand up. I've been tazered before and was able to get up afterwards. I say he had it comming and campus police did the right thing. The ball was in his court, he could have produced his ID and been done with it or calmly explained that he did not have it on him *whatever the case was* and there you have a peacefull solution.


Regardless of whether you can stand up or not, you can taze him once and carry him out.  It's not like he's 500 pounds...

What are you going to do when you get a stubborn guy?  Taze him until his heart stops?  The line has to be drawn somewhere.
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Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

all i heard was he was unable to produce his i.d. and wouldnt leave


there fore the police should be able to do whatever it takes to gget this kid outa there



Wow...are you serious?

So you honestly can say that if you forgot your student ID, or dropped your wallet, and a police officer decided to knock out your teeth with a baton, you'd be smiling about it on the news the next day saying "nonono, I'm an idiot, I lost my card...they should have hit me harder actually"
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Little Devil, that's dumb. And chewp, no. Even at a school library you still have to produce a student ID to be allowed in their if the rules say so. If you fail to do so, you are then trespassing and the police are then allowed to follow procedure. When you refuse to cooperate, they are allowed certain means to acomplish the goal of getting you off of the now 'private' property and tazing falls in to that category.
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Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

Little Devil, that's dumb. And chewp, no. Even at a school library you still have to produce a student ID to be allowed in their if the rules say so. If you fail to do so, you are then trespassing and the police are then allowed to follow procedure. When you refuse to cooperate, they are allowed certain means to acomplish the goal of getting you off of the now 'private' property and tazing falls in to that category.


Being tazered 5 times in under a minute, while you're handcuffed and on the ground seems reasonable?

"oh snap, he cant walk....lets shock him again!"

Hows that going to give you more muscle control so you can even try to cooperate?
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