Lightening the rear bolt?

Yes, and no. Companies already sell lightened rear bolts, the problem is with a lighter rear bolt you require a heavier drive spring so it still takes about the same amount of gas to recoil the hammer. 

would it, however, reduce recoil since there would be less moving mass?

recoil is a product (the negative product) of the momentum created by firing the paintball. By lightening the bolt, hell the entire gun, you would actually increase the force of recoil (kind of).

(mass of paintball)*(velocity of paintball)=(mass of gun)*(velocity of gun)

the velocity of the gun will be opposite the direction of the paintbal.. in other words, into your body. If the gun is lightened, but the left hand side of the equation is left untouched, the velocity of the gun into your body must be increased.

It must be, or the laws of physics will completely fall apart, and you may very likely explode.

Edited by tippmannfreak - 13 November 2007 at 8:36pm

ah ive broken the laws of physics before its not so bad...I would think though that the equation would be more like this

(mass paintball)(velocity paintball)=(mass bolt)(velocity bolt)=(mass gun)(velocity gun)

assuming... 1 = mass paintball, 280 fps paintball, 3 = mass bolt, x = velocity bolt(fps), 300 =  mass gun, y = velocity gun

1*280fps = 3x = 300y; 280=3x: x=93.3; 93.3=300y: y=0.311

lightened bolt... 1=mass paintball, 280 fps paintball, 1.5 = mass bolt, x=Vb, 300 mass gun, y = Vg

1*280 = 1.5x = 300y; 280=1.5x: x=186.6(increased bolt velocity); 186.6=300y:y=0.622< ahh!! then it is increased velocity so tippfreak was right.

hmm but...1=Mp, 280=Vp, 1.5=Mb, x=Vb, 900=Mg, y=Vg

1*280=1.5x=600y; x=186.6; 186.6=900y: y=0.207(but really tripling gun weight?! poo on that)

So im thinking all we gain by lighting rear bolt is possible faster recocking? Although increasing spring tension to compensate for what, higher fps return? Im getting confused now. I know that rear spring directly effects/affects<dont know which to use> ball fps but ahhhh i think i am goign to explode.

Take all this with a grain of salt im a programmer and dropped out of engineering school many years ago.

 

hmm then where can i buy the valve springs?

 

what is LPK?

 

ahh cool...

so then my goal should be LPK, assuming it has lightened rear hammer but if not then lighten hammer, Etrigger, and compressed air and i should get a fairly quick firing gun?

tippmannfreak wrote: recoil is a product (the negative product) of the momentum created by firing the paintball. By lightening the bolt, hell the entire gun, you would actually increase the force of recoil (kind of). (mass of paintball)*(velocity of paintball)=(mass of gun)*(velocity of gun) the velocity of the gun will be opposite the direction of the paintbal.. in other words, into your body. If the gun is lightened, but the left hand side of the equation is left untouched, the velocity of the gun into your body must be increased. It must be, or the laws of physics will completely fall apart, and you may very likely explode.

Well, you dont calculate with the mass of the bolt which is also pushed forwards. This will make more difference than the mass of the paintball... The bolt of my ion weighs about 10g, and it that is what making the difference between that and my A5... If it was only the paintballs and the marker that mattered, my ion would have more recoil, because its lighter... Also, people say they cant hear that im shooting at them, only the balls flying around their ears, thats not the case with my A5, but it doesnt matter, i love it more:)

(mass of paintball)(velocity of paintball)+(mass of hammer and bolt)(speed of hammer and bolt) = (mass of marker minus the mass of paintball, hammer and bolt)(speed of marker minus paintball, hammer and bolt)


Edited by SirHitalot - 11 December 2007 at 7:11am