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    Posted: 26 October 2008 at 5:31pm

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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if it's the way they make it sound, which i kinda have
my doubts about: /facepalm
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The October surprise happened a few weeks ago when the markets tanked. This attack will be forgotten in a few days
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Cow drowned into the sea for being impregnated by human
Thu, 10/23/2008 10:59 AM | Bali

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Villagers from Julah in Tejakula, Buleleng, tow (see photo) a pregnant cow behind a boat into open sea as part of a local traditional ritual.

The cow, which is five months pregnant, was thrown out to the sea about 3 kilometers from land Monday. The villagers believe the animal was impregnated by a village elder.

During the ritual the man, who was caught red-handed having sexual intercourse with the cow two months ago, joined the boat trip in order to throw away his clothes to to symbolize him discarding his sins.

Julah customary village head Ketut Sidemen said the ritual, called gamya gamana, or freak weeding, and had been conducted there for generations. The decision to perform the ritual was made a local residents meeting.

In line with customary regulations, the perpetrator, identified only as PS, 70, was sanctioned to fund the expensive ceremony, which aimed to cleanse him of any bad influences.

Luh Ketut Suryani, a professor and activist, deplored the sancation against PS.

She said drowning a cow was baseless because sexual intercourse between a human being and am animal could not cause pregnancy due to the different chromosomes and genes of the two.

"The cow is not guilty, why shoud it be drowned? Why don't just use a symbol like what was done by the perpetrator?" she said.

Suryani's said she was concerned dealt with the financial situation of the owner, who lives below the poverty line.

"The cow, which has a high price, had to be thrown away. It will be a pity for the owner, who is already poor and is now forced to lose his priceless belonging." -- JP/Alit Kertaraharja




There's your surprise. Creepy old man is creepy..like Mccain :)
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Originally posted by CarbineKid CarbineKid wrote:

The October surprise happened a few weeks ago when the markets tanked. This attack will be forgotten in a few days
Unless McCain can capitalize on this to bring foreign policy back to the table and turn enough people back to him.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Ugh.  It's doubtful that "American soldiers", attacked civilians with the purpose of killing them, and then extracting.  It's obvious that there was more to the situation than that.  No such thing as bad press though, eh?
I'm pretty sure this isn't going to become another event he can capitalize on..you've got to be kidding...

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Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

Ugh.  It's doubtful that "American soldiers", attacked civilians with the purpose of killing them, and then extracting.  It's obvious that there was more to the situation than that.  No such thing as bad press though, eh?I'm pretty sure this isn't going to become another event he can capitalize on..you've got to be kidding...
It all depends on Syria's response. Mc Cain has been calling Obamas pledge to go into any country to get bin laden or his officials without the governments consent as ignorant, naive, and dangerous.

It all depends on how Syria responds.

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Haven't we already done this kind of stuff in Pakistan?

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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Haven't we already done this kind of stuff in Pakistan?
A few times since the end of last year. It was a big deal when Obama brought this up in the dme primary debates. Even Biden called him out on it. About a month or two later the Bush administration started sending in Predators to take out high value targets due to Pakistan being uncooperative or they were being tipped off by low level gov workers who were sympathetic ruining the strike.

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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

Ugh.  It's doubtful that "American soldiers", attacked civilians with the purpose of killing them, and then extracting.  It's obvious that there was more to the situation than that.  No such thing as bad press though, eh?I'm pretty sure this isn't going to become another event he can capitalize on..you've got to be kidding...
It all depends on Syria's response. Mc Cain has been calling Obamas pledge to go into any country to get bin laden or his officials without the governments consent as ignorant, naive, and dangerous.

It all depends on how Syria responds.


And that's why I'm reserving judgment. Now we play the waiting game
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

Ugh.  It's doubtful that "American soldiers", attacked civilians with the purpose of killing them, and then extracting.  It's obvious that there was more to the situation than that.  No such thing as bad press though, eh?I'm pretty sure this isn't going to become another event he can capitalize on..you've got to be kidding...
It all depends on Syria's response. Mc Cain has been calling Obamas pledge to go into any country to get bin laden or his officials without the governments consent as ignorant, naive, and dangerous.

It all depends on how Syria responds.


Right, what was McCain's quote though?

Something along the lines of "Whatever it takes to get Bin Laden. Even if I have to meet him at the gates of Hell"?   McCain is talking about invading Lucifer's domain.  How is that any better then Obama possibly sending special forces into Syria?


Edit: found the McCain quote: "I'll get him.  I will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell and I will get him.  I promise you that."

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Didn't Huckabee say almost the exact thing, several months before McCain?

I forget.

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Originally posted by Bruce Banner Bruce Banner wrote:

Didn't Huckabee say almost the exact thing, several months before McCain?

I forget.



He probably did, but McCain's saying it had more bearing on the topic I thought?

How many people have used the lipstick on a pig comment, but they singled out Obama when he said it after Palin's bulldog comment?
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LOL @ "Gates of Hell"

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Funny how some troops manage to fly into a off-limits country and land, shoot a bunch of people including children ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE, then leave.

That's believable.
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I love how the numerous articles headline it as if "THE US ATTACKS SYRIA!!!!".

Its a big deal, but not the beginning on WW3 as most people want to push as they can be the forefront of the government hate bandwagon.
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Am I going to have to be the first to say this?


So?




Where's the evidence that A) They were unarmed civilians and B) There were children?


Syria, and Iran, have much to gain by making this look like a cold blooded assault on a family building a house.

I honestly could give a damn about a countries "sovereign borders" if they support terrorism. But that's just me.

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This thread makes me think of that one scene in Full Metal Jacket.

"How can you shoot women and children?"

"It's easy! Just don't lead them as much!"
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