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    Posted: 25 July 2004 at 4:57pm
For the Smart Parts All American Barrel which size is the best for the 98 c, 14 or 16 inch?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 4:59pm
14. but i have a 16 inch boomstick. just depends.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 5:00pm
14. The 16 will have the same effect as the 14, but is just longer and might get in the way. also personal preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 5:05pm
doesnt really matter, i think 14 myslef is pushing the length but its wat i use, u want it shorter for speedball, just get the 14.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 5:08pm

12 in

16 just wastes gas but i guess 14 is okay its all up to u

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How does 16 in waste gas?
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12" After that your Wasting material.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 5:28pm

Originally posted by Brunse Brunse wrote:

How does 16 in waste gas?

im not positive  but im pretty sure its becuz u need more gas to get the same volecty(sp) cuz its longer n more friction...something along those lines

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Large Unit Large Unit wrote:

its all the same..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 6:21pm
16" has quite a few more advantages over much shorter barrels like 12" and under...for any style of play. At least for me. It may not be the same, but for me it works better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2004 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by Tippsy98 Tippsy98 wrote:

[QUOTE=Brunse]How does 16 in waste gas?

im not positive  but im pretty sure its becuz u need more gas to get the same volecty(sp) cuz its longer n more friction...something along those lines

[/Q it takes more gast to push somthing through a longer barrel, since it is longer the more gase has to go into it to push  thats why the whisper barrel (like i have,it suks dont get it) downgrades the power since the co2 leaves th holes the gun must push out more air so the ball can get through at the velocity it is at. i just taped up the holes it is really loud but it can get more power. but anywase i heard their is no differince beetween the lengthes of 14-16 so go for 14.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 2:57am
if u play speedball 16 if you play woodsball 12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 9:01am
Originally posted by A-5kid A-5kid wrote:

Originally posted by Tippsy98 Tippsy98 wrote:


[QUOTE=Brunse]How does 16 in waste gas?


im not positive  but im pretty sure its becuz u need more gas to get the same volecty(sp) cuz its longer n more friction...something along those lines


[/Q it takes more gast to push somthing through a longer barrel, since it is longer the more gase has to go into it to push  thats why the whisper barrel (like i have,it suks dont get it) downgrades the power since the co2 leaves th holes the gun must push out more air so the ball can get through at the velocity it is at. i just taped up the holes it is really loud but it can get more power. but anywase i heard their is no differince beetween the lengthes of 14-16 so go for 14.



A stock tippmann will use the same amount of gas on every single shot. Doesn't matter what velocity. 1 FPS or 600 FPS it will use the same amount of gas.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 9:54am
a paintball gun puts out the same ammount of gas each shot. its not a gun that know how long your barrel is and remember to put out more gas. saying it puts out more gas because of a longer barrel just shows your ignorance. I thought some people were smarter than this but i guess not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 10:35am

hey i have a 14 and it didnt do much more than the stock barral so do what ever you want

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 11:02am

Originally posted by WebHalex WebHalex wrote:

if u play speedball 16 if you play woodsball 12

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 11:13am
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

12" After that your Wasting material.
  No not really 14" is also efficient.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2004 at 11:36am
Originally posted by SEALLogan SEALLogan wrote:

A stock tippmann will use the same amount of gas on every single shot. Doesn't matter what velocity. 1 FPS or 600 FPS it will use the same amount of gas.


Yes a STOCK Tippmann will use the same amount of gas for each shot, because it uses a flow restricter as its means of velocity adjustment. Basically that means that the stock velocity adjuster slows down the escaping gas from the valve so not as much of it can get to a certain spot at a time.

So yes, no matter what length barrel you have on a STOCK Tippmann will not effect gas consumption. You will have to turn you velocity adjustment up a bit for longer barrels but you will always be using the same amount of gas, just allowing more of it to get to the barrel at a time.

However if you have a Tippmann that has a rear velocity adjuster or if you use a secondary reg to adjust your velocity, then the case changes.

Those two methods adjust velocity by adjusting the air flow to the valve, not from it like in the STOCK system.

This means that no longer are you restricting the air flow to the barrel. You want the air flowing at its full capacity to avoid pressure drops and the likes. That means that you are either changing how long the valve remains open to adjust velocity or how much pressure comes out of the valve to adjust velocity. Now with a longer barrel there is the chance of increased friction and pressure drops towards the end of it. That would mean that you need to either open the valve for longer to let more air out, or up the pressure to let more air through.

However all this talk about 16" barrels wasting more air than 14" barrels is all bs. I don't know where it started or who made it up but its basically all hooey unless you have a very poorly finished or designed barrel. A well designed barrel will have a very smooth and pretty friction free inner hone as well as a stepped design (the back of the barrel is smaller bored than the front for better air seal upon air release and less friction down the barrel).

This basically means that there will be a indistinguishable difference in air consumption between different length barrels on the same gun at the same air pressure and valve dwell.

Now if you had a 36" barrel, the story would change. but the difference between a 14" and a 16" isn't anything to worry about.
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