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    Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:05pm

i play mostly airsoft and i was wondering why paintball markers dont have the same built in hop up, that way u cold have the flatline and change ur barrel.

you would also be able to adjust how much spin is on, too much and it curves up and too little and it just fires like a normal barrel.

as i dont know how the hop up works, im guessing that it puts too much stress on the ball and would make it explode which is not an issue with a plastic 6mm bb.

 

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Im confused as to what hop up is, and how it applies to paintball.
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There is a hop-up barrel. And I have some people that said they have matched the flatline in distance. The barrel is made by Warsensor and only Warsensor guns can use them because of the unique threading. www.warsensor.com
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It's the same thing.

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i personally would just stick with the flatline.

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Originally posted by Bonestock98 Bonestock98 wrote:

It's the same thing.
Um, no. Its a straight barrel except with 3 grooves at 11, 12, and 1 oclock of the barrel. It releives presure at the top and creates more pressure at the bottom creating backspin. Dont talk till you accually know wtf your talking about.
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so that would be easy enough to incoperate into the gun right so u culd change you barrel to ur liking and still get backspin?
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Originally posted by Blackbetty Blackbetty wrote:

so that would be easy enough to incoperate into the gun right so u culd change you barrel to ur liking and still get backspin?

No. 

The receiver of the paintball gun would have to be redesigned.  Most manufacturers use a similar design because it's cheap and easy to produce.  As long as the most common products are selling, there will be no reason to make major changes in design. 

There are a few companies that have produced different designs such as Tipmann and ATS.  The closest thing to what you are talking about is the ATS system, which doesn't rely on the barrel for stabilization.

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There is no way to put the Hop Up barrel on another marker, even you tried puttin one fer another airsoft gun and if that was the case Armotech, Mauri, etc. wouldve stated it in their websites....now like what Ariakon Eagle has stated....the Hop Up "is only fer the Warsensors"
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Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Originally posted by Blackbetty Blackbetty wrote:

so that would be easy enough to incoperate into the gun right so u culd change you barrel to ur liking and still get backspin?

No. 

The receiver of the paintball gun would have to be redesigned.  Most manufacturers use a similar design because it's cheap and easy to produce.  As long as the most common products are selling, there will be no reason to make major changes in design. 

There are a few companies that have produced different designs such as Tipmann and ATS.  The closest thing to what you are talking about is the ATS system, which doesn't rely on the barrel for stabilization.



How does an ATS gun even come close to what hes describing?
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Warsensors barrels dont have threading, it uses a quick disconect system. Similar to Ariakons Sim-5 barrel, but the Sim-5 barrel is thinner. You would need some sort of custom adapter in order to fit any other gun. Evil_Fingers is on the right track.

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ok, as i dont fully understand the inards of a paintball gun, im getting
lost,

why is three groves at 11 12 and 1 so hard, or even why isnt it just a
standard feature in all barrels, i mean, everyone loves the flatline and this
other brand hopup barel has claims of matching it, why can't it be
incoperated into every barrel. good airsoft guns have all got it and it
makes a massive difference as you all know,

so if it is just three little grouves, then how come its so hard,

ps, im not being critical, just constructive
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and whats a receiver?
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sorry to post yet again, but looking at the warsensor site, it appears that
the groves are at 5 6 and 7 o'clock
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i dout a hop up system would  really be anymore efective than an electric hopper

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Originally posted by lester98c lester98c wrote:

i dout a hop up system would  really be anymore efective than an electric hopper

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ronflmfao,,, wtf???????

i bet he thought that a hop up system pushed air into the hopper and
rumbled them around makeing the pbs "hop up" round the place,

so anyways,,, whats the reciever??? becaus apparently that iw what you
would have to redesign,

this is an idea for a future gun, not a modification,
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[QUOTE=Blackbetty]ronflmfao,,, wtf???????

i bet he thought that a hop up system pushed air into the hopper and
rumbled them around makeing the pbs "hop up" round the place,

that is what i thought and i wasnt really trying to reach any amount i had a half day of school and was bored

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