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thats not thte point u guys

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    Posted: 30 July 2006 at 10:08pm
hey guys, i am new to this fourm, so any way, i am currently not on a paintball team, i am going to be one tho, i am being really serious abpout paintball, i am really good i think and want a good speendball gun. i want a gun that is easy to clean and repair, customizable, easy to use, fast, accuarate, and reliable. oh yea, and resonably priced, (idc if im payen 1000 dollars, just as long as i get what im payen for). i was lookin into the Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's. what one do u reccomend and y, is one better for me than the other? (for speedball). thanks guys
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are you new if you are get a spyder imagine  THEY ARE FAST  I have one and use it if you get a anti chop bolt you could rip that thing and before spending 600$ on a gun then on the first clean break it then what? learn with a spyder e-marker

spyder electra is a speedball gun that is fast but rocking trigger isnt tourney legal but you could get a new trigger

if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5
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go get a used DM4 or DM5 or PM5 they are cheap and rip 
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thats not thte point u guys

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i dont want a dm4, i wood rather get one of the guns that i metioned, and im not new, i have an uped a5 but i want a new gun, thats besides the point, what do u think, i want a gun that is easy to clean and repair, customizable, easy to use, fast, accuarate, and reliable. oh yea, and resonably priced, Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's?
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I get the feeling that you don't know what you are getting into.

If you are going to get a "high end" gun, start with the Ion. It is the most idiot-proof of the guns you mentioned.

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No, I really do know about all of these guns and that they need to be lubed after each use, can/shood only run on compressed air, need an electric hopper to keep up, need to clean eyes, shood fine tune the gun such as the regulator and then trigger, and more....i know how to do this stuff, really, i know alot about paintball, i have a jersey and pants and everything, and know alot and play alot, so what is the best gun out of the ones i metioned, Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's?
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If you know all about them, why cant you decide? I would honestly look into a used DM5. They go for a good price used and are all of the things you listed.
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dm5 for pm5, you dont sound educated enough to make an educated guess, and dont get a shocker they are the combined work of satan and hitler, now where is that picture of him......dang

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ohk,um what gun is better i know they can both run at a low pressue amd they have good regs, but whihc one is better, the pm6 or shocker vision? also, does anyone know when dye will come out with a DM7?
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Ferrari II ???
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what, can some one answer my question please?

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Originally posted by cus98tom cus98tom wrote:

Ferrari II ???

Good observation. I agree.

Neither? I don't like the design of either gun.



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Originally posted by ihearthector ihearthector wrote:

No, I really do know about all of these guns and that they need to be lubed after each use, can/shood only run on compressed air, need an electric hopper to keep up, need to clean eyes, shood fine tune the gun such as the regulator and then trigger, and more....i know how to do this stuff, really, i know alot about paintball, i have a jersey and pants and everything, and know alot and play alot, so what is the best gun out of the ones i metioned, Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's?


Well, it seems to me that if you 'knew all about the guns' then you'd have realized that each is a good marker/brand that works well for thousands of players, and it's really all a matter of how much you personally like the trigger frame and available triggers on a particular marker. There is no 'best gun', there is only what you prefer over what someone else prefers. Also, they are not 'Bob Longs', Bob Long is a player-turned-businessman/coach who created the Intimidator line of markers, which is what you're referring to

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Originally posted by ihearthector ihearthector wrote:

ohk,um what gun is better i know they can both run at a low pressue amd they have good regs, but whihc one is better, the pm6 or shocker vision? also, does anyone know when dye will come out with a DM7?
the shocker reg sucks.

but they both have a spool-valve, so they're pretty identical...

...get a promaster before you get a $1000 marker...  $1000+ markers arn't like your tippy...  they can break if you unscrew something wrong... and you have to send it to the factory for a couple months.

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between a pm6 and shocker...

i'd get a pm6.

but i'm a big fan of the matrix line, and not as big of a fan as shockers. 

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^^thats what i was thinking,

id say get a promaster.  They are amazing gun, and they are $370 new, and you can up them with new regs, valves, trigger, and the usual.

They are amazing guns, personally, i dont like the shocker frame.

for around

$460 you can get a Bob Long Defiant2- dont know much about them

$410- Nerve- pretty much upped to the max out of the box

$370-Promaster- upgrades are coming out more and more



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what do u guys prefer, a pm6 or a vision, thats what im down too?
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no, you are ferrari returned from the dead, and get a pm6 out of those two, but you really sound like you are seven, refer to meanman for reccomendations, you arent ready for that gun yet, you dont know anything about them

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