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p_p_b_h 
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 Topic: new or old spPosted: 25 October 2007 at 3:03pm |
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well i was wondering if the vibe is better than the ion, they are both low end smartparts, but the vibe is newer but cheaper. as well, is the epiphany or the eos better.
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DeTrevni
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 4:39pm |
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Now how are we supposed to know that? They aren't even out yet, just preorders...
Not to mention, SP sucks. If you really want an SP gun, get used so you don't have to support their filth. |
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 5:07pm |
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I wouldn't even buy used. |
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 8:01pm |
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The vibe is just the old impulse tech packaged in plastic. It's a l-o-p spool-valve with no lpr, it's blind, and has a max rate of 11bps. It's a POS. If you chop a round (and 180psi forward pressure WILL chop) then you're going to jam the bolt forward and that is a PITA, just ask any classic-mag owner.
It's an imp, they're just not charging exorbitant prices for what is essentially 10 year old tech anymore. The Eos is just the old HE Matrix top-hat mod trick done up professionally in a lpr-regulated imp/shocker format. |
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p_p_b_h
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 11:30pm |
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... with the markers i have i dont think id ever get an sp gun. i was thinking that the new guns seemed of low worth and just wanted to see if there was anything worth looking at. |
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 12:07am |
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Nope, not really. The new big-boys on the block (SP, DYE, et al) have all realized what many others already knew. It's not the $1,000 paintball marker that makes you money, it's the dirt-cheap one that you sell to the stupid suv-driving trophy wife of a soccer mom. THEN you sell them the $1,000 marker down the road.
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DeTrevni
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 12:24pm |
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Snake, normally I'd agree with that sentiment, but I actually like some of their markers. I'm toying with the idea of picking up an SFT (what a joke...) Shocker, or an old PL Vision Impy to screw around with.
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 12:40pm |
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A friend of mine has an SP ion, and he loves it. I have never played with one but his seems fine. Why are they so detested? |
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DeTrevni
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 12:44pm |
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It's not so much as we hate Ions as it is we hate Smart Parts. They're nazis that are trying to monopolize the paintball market, their business ethics are nonexistant and they put a lot of good companies out of business. SP = Edited by DeTrevni - 26 October 2007 at 12:44pm |
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 2:30pm |
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I don't have a problem with a company being competitive, but I don't think some of the patents that SP strong arms companies into paying royalties on would stand up in court, or go against the reasoning behind patents. I also do not like Smart Parts because they make mediocre products, but have huge name recognition among players, so there is a large number of people who think they are the greatest thing to ever exist. |
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 3:01pm |
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ok now its personal. some guy at my school said my freeflow cocker was the worst gun he has eveer seen and that cockers are horrible, and hes spent like 500 on his ion... couple other guys at school have ions and are also agreeing that the ion or X7 is pretty much the best gun made, and that the c3 is better than my new and beutiful phantom, .... some of you guys should come down and play these morons and plow them over, ive got a real moron/noob/milsimer apedemic here....
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 6:36pm |
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where do you live ppbh? I'd make the road trip
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DeTrevni
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 11:21pm |
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The pain, the pain... Told you. I was gonna mention the superiority complex most Ion owners have, but figured that would be too much of a generalization. A good example: Me (upon hearing a kid is a paintballer): Man, I've got this plan to make my 98c [back when I used it] awesome! Him: C'mon, it's a 98. It won't be that great... Me: Sure it will. Did you know it can be E-Bolted? Him: Huh? Me: That's where it replaces the hammer with a pneumatic ram. I can drop a Matrix board in there, 2-way the ram, install eyes and centerfeed it! Him: Still, it's a 98. It won't be as good as mine. Me: Er, well, what do you shoot? Him (with an aura of superiority): I've got an Ion. It's got a QEV. Me: /facepalm |
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 8:56am |
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Ontario, canada. just start setting up seminars in every city explaining everything about why sp sucks/is lesser than cockers and pretty much any other gun. lol my friend is in the reserve and his regiment has challenged me to play. i figure there gonna be good, but they all have done up x7s and think that its the most accurate and strong gun(how can a gun be a strong gun?) and that cockers are old and dead. hehe, one had the balls to say that they could take on any Canadian pro paintball team. anyone got the number of Edmonton impact?
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 5:57pm |
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Haha, thats funny.
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 9:01pm |
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Yeah, ontario is mostly woodsball.
I don't have a speedball field for like an hour. |
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 9:10pm |
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Doesn't mean you can't play speedball in the woods Carl
 People love it when you hit the 50 off the break and then start bunkering everyone who is creeping forward on their bellies.
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 9:41pm |
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So true, So true. This is what I do every walk on game. |
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Posted: 01 November 2007 at 8:53pm |
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Or just run the same way they are at first and go around the field come up behind them all and either barrel tap then or hit them from behind. If you use the cocker most of them prolly wont even know you are behind them since they are so quiet.
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table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers *Fairies= Angels *Pixies= Timmys *leprachauns= tippys *goblins= spyders *elves= mags *lawyers= smartparts Ya I'm that smart |
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