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    Posted: 24 May 2008 at 12:47pm
Hi, I just got an A-5 yesterday. I've played paintball a couple of times and loved it; Don't know why it took me so long to get a gun, but anyway finally got my first gun (paintball, that is).

This is our problem:
We have a feral cat problem. Part of the reason I got the A-5 is to help discourage these cats from congregating in our yard. They kill everything and use our planters and flower boxes as litter boxes. The straw that broke the camels back is that at least one has gotten into our garage a few times, and in climbing the hood of our car has scratched the hell out of the paint on our new car.
I figure I can pop them with a .22 or pellet gun (neither of which they will survive), or zap them with a paintball a couple of times (even though I hate them, I don't think I have the heart to start killing them - at this point).
After getting acquainted with my new toy, I'm questioning how well a cat could stand up to hit from a paintball. I would probably feel bad leaving one with a broken leg, rib, or hip, cracked skull or popped eyeball; I might as well just use the pellet gun.

This is my question:
Does anyone have any suggestions on paint to use or anything else that may help reduce the chance of a fatality, but still sting enough to get the point across? Maybe softer paint, some kind of foam balls (I've seen these for some kind of kid-friendly backyard paintball marker), etc.
Is my best option just to turn down my velocity?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 3:22pm
I think you can buy bottles of cat/dog repellent spray at pet-stores
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 4:39pm
a cat will also survive a hit from a paintball just dont turn up the velocity too much and dont hit them in the head. but yes there is also stuff you can buy just to repel cats in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 6:05pm
We've tried the cat "repellent" stuff to no avail.
The stuff seems to work for a few days (as far as keeping them from using flower boxes as litter).
They also go alot just in the grass too.
I think we must be centrally located relative to where they all come from. It's the same 6 or 7 cats and they come from all directions - except two are our next-door neighbors, so they are kinda off limits.
As I mentioned we've tried the repellent for small areas, which gives poor results. I feel like they need some type of negative reinforcement to make them say "Maybe we should stay out of that area, 'cause something that really stings happens when we go there".

To keep this paintball related and not get locked, I was hoping to get some ideas for some stuff that might not hit with the impact of a real paintball.
For example, I just got back from the store where I grabbed these VBALLS things I saw (happened to stumble across them by accident). They are these little velcro covered balls that feel like they have a rubber core. Supposedly they will fit any .68 cal paintball gun.
I think I'm going to adjust my velocity and have my wife or brother shoot me with these and a real paintball to see which hits harder.

This may be a topic for a new thread, but anyone know anything about these; specifically do you think they'll damage the cyclone feed thing? They are a little smaller than a paintball, and a little lighter.
Kinda looks like a little tennis ball.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 7:14pm
Wow...

This is like borderline animal cruelty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 7:42pm
get reball and take out your velocity screw lol jk but just put velocity at 260 and shoot it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:08pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Wow...

This is like borderline animal cruelty.


They are feral cats, so I don't care too much; Probably not as cruel as a .22 thru the noggin though.

In case any one was wondering, they (the VBALL things) do sting like the dickens.

My neighbor was kind enough to help me run a quick unscientific experiment.

This was from about 30 ft through a t-shirt.
(yes, it's my back, not his)
You cant really see how raised the site is, but you get the idea. The skin was broken enough to leave a good amount of blood on my shirt for what it was. The skin that's missing is actually embedded in my shirt.
I didn't feel like taking a paintball too from that range at the time, but I think they actually hit a little harder than paint due to the solid core.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:23pm
Probably more cruel than a .22 through the noggin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:41pm
Ever thought of just getting a dog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:54pm

Just to inform it is animal cruelty. It would be far better to kill them, than to cripple one and leave to die on its own. And paintballs will pop eyeballs very easily. If I were you and you have your heart set on hiting them with projectiles, you can buy a relitively cheap airsoft gun, the clear plactic ones are pretty harmless past 15 feet. Plus BB's are cheaper than paintballs. I bought one at Walmart for $35. Its afull auto too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2008 at 10:09pm

You could get a weaker drive spring as well as turn in your velocity screw all the way.

I think the hose is the safest way imho.

Edit: If you are set on shooting cats, try to get really really brittle paintballs. Breaks hurt alot less.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2008 at 1:14am
Thank you SSOK.

Originally posted by notom66866 notom66866 wrote:

Just to inform it is animal cruelty. It would be far better to kill them, than to cripple one and leave to die on its own.


That's my dilema, I don't want to do that kind of damage, otherwise I would just shoot them for real.
As I see it I have three options:
1. I can ignore them
    I'm sick of them, so no longer an option.
2. I can just kill them
    This is probably what I should do.
    Cats are unbelievably destructive. In neighboring Wisconsin, where it is legal to shoot them on site, it is estimated they kill around 50 million songbirds a year.
    I think I would still feel bad killing them.
    I also live in St Paul, so gunshots - even .22 shorts - will bring cops and possibly criminal charges.
3. I can do something that will make them not want to come to my yard anymore.
    I think doing something that will hurt pretty bad, but not kill is needed.
    I think any metal projectile has a good chance of penetrating the skin, in which case I may as well shoot them with the pellet gun (lethal).
    This limits me to something like Airsoft or paintball.
    I have absolutely no use for an Airsoft gun, and I've always wanted a paintball gun, so I got a paintball gun. (I might pick up a CO2 bb pistol just for fun too and see how that is).
   
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:


Ever thought of just getting a dog?


We have two boxers. When I let them out, if a cat is there they chase them away, but it doesn't prevent them from coming back.

I don't know how the moderators here are, but I can see this one getting locked for being off topic. If someone wants to pick this up in another section I'd be happy to discuss the morality of killing cats.

I will probably just play with the velocity of my paintball gun for now, but was wondering if there are any low impact things on the market that would work.

As far as the VBALL things:
I don't see what good they would be (for paintball players, not cats).
They don't fly very straight and you need to get some stupid velcro vest for them to stick to.
I can't see the benefit to practicing with them other than shooting them around inside the house.


By the way, if I want to be like a sniper what barrel should I get for  my A-5??
    (just kidding, I know this question gets people worked up)


Edited by EastSideRich - 25 May 2008 at 1:25am
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Well, at least this is thought out. The modorators here don't care if it gets off topic. Man, this place would be a nightmare if they did. Have you seen Thoughts and Opinions? This place is very self-regulated. The modorators keep the inappropriateness out and let us have at it, pretty much. We're like a miniature ecosystem, so it all balances out and we last. :)

Anyway, a paintball is a heavy object, and shooting a cat with one at pretty much any velocity is a bad idea. Also, unless you want to kill, stay away from any metal-launching BB gun (like the CO2 pistol you mentioned, which are mostly pretty powerful). I STRONGLY suggest looking at getting an airsoft gun like mentioned. I can see them being a lot less dangerous, but just as effective. We seem to be having the same problem, so I wish you luck...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2008 at 10:50pm
go online and pick up a bottle of Coyote Urine. Best pest repellent ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2008 at 9:47am

i.e

If an animal starts eating my garden vegetables they go down.

My back yard is fenced in for a reason.

If at any time a varmint wants to flip for my water bill and/or buy vegetables for me at the store I'll lay off.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2008 at 11:59am
I've done it before to stay off unwanted tom cats from our farm. Cat lived just fine. I wouldn't unload on it or anything, just a quick shot or two.
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Homemade silencer! My grandpa made one for a rifle to shoot squirrels. It looked ghetto, but it worked really well. My mom said that she couldn't hear the gun be shot when it was used.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2008 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Homemade silencer! My grandpa made one for a rifle to shoot squirrels. It looked ghetto, but it worked really well. 


Need to be VERY careful with things of this nature -

Can you say Federal Offense?

Even though I'm sure it was quite innocent not to mention fun, he'd be looking at a lengthy prison sentence, and loosing any right to own firearms.

If I were you, I'd suggest he get rid of that thing asap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2008 at 10:45pm
I'm suprised no one has suggested this yet... but dry fire and let the loudness of an A5 scare them away?
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trap them, and turn them over to animal control
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