Why does it even exist?

Wouldn't it be all-together easier to not curse? 

I agree, I don't understand handing out strikes for filtered words. Filter dodges I get, filtered words notsomuch.

stratoaxe wrote: it does kind of defeat the purpose of filtering.

^^^ That's kind of what I was thinking.

Edit: Y'all are quick. Well, I agree with the both of ya.


Edited by Magoo - 30 June 2010 at 3:19pm

Jeez, people. Y'all have itchy typer fingers. Check the edit...

Fair enough, that makes sense.

Apu wrote: Still seems a bit silly to me..

This. After all, when we replace a curse word with a non-curse word, ie: "That's effing stupid" or "That's a load of BS" we're doing nothing more than what the filter is doing in preventing the actual word which we're using from being seen by others. We're just doing it manually. The intent is still there. So does that mean we should get strikes for saying "Awww shoot" instead of "Aww **edited**?"

Furthermore, it is my understanding that mods cannot tell if the post is self-edited or if the filter caught a word, which means that it's complete speculation in many cases as to whether a word was actually edited by the forum or self-edited by the user.

In fact, just last night I had a conversation with another member of this forum about whether I should post the following, and you know what. Against my better judgement, I'm going to.

The thread about the two officers being killed in FL during a traffic stop had this in it:

Impulse. wrote: He killed two cops? Impressive.

It was responded to by USAF with:

USAF wrote: **edited** you.

(note, this is EXACTLY how it appeared on screen, there was no attempt at a filter dodge, and again, mods can't tell if it was self edited or caught by the filter)

This was then changed to the following by Ruska:

usafpilot07 wrote: You're lucky I don't want to change your title...Keep the language clean

And this is my response.

Quite frankly, I think USAF was totally justified. Not only that, but the filter ensures that his language is clean. Impulse was, is, and always will be a recurring cancer on this forum. Besides, when will the mods finally get over the use of **edited** vs saying "fudge" "fark" "frikken" etc. The forum auto-edits for a reason, it's not like USAF was dodging the filter or anything. That I could understand, but strikes and threats of strikes for language when no language is actually seen on the page? Heck, **edited** is cleaner than half the stuff that is said on this forum anyway. Just seems silly to me.

That said, I never have, nor ever will understand how the mods let Impulse get away with half the crap that he has. He intentionally trolls, only ever makes statements to troll or statements that, quite frankly, aren't "family friendly" which is the very same reason that the mods have come up with to justify giving strikes when someone filter dodges or, as in USAF's case, uses a word which is auto-edited anyway. I find it hard to see how a known troll can get away with being a cancer to our community, but using the built-in language control features of this forum will get you a strike and even guested.

I know there's a reason that every time my name is thrown into the ring for mod status that it gets shot down. It's because I'm given a strike about once a year and probably because I've written enough scathing PMs to mods over the way they've handled situations in the past. The fact of the matter is that some of the mods on this forum have their favorites and seem to like to play games with who they'll dole out strikes to, and who they'll let slide even though their behavior is far from "family friendly." The fact of the matter is that the rules that were set down on what was a strike and what isn't are flawed. For some reason we let trolls run free, letting them bait others simply to start flame wars and then punish those that fall for it. I honestly believe that most of the offenses on this forum wouldn't even be committed if the mods simply put an end to the trolling from people like Impulse and (thank God he's not around anymore) Dune. Seriously, trolling has every bit as much of a bad effect on the behavior and perception of this forum as any form of foul language, if not more. So can anyone tell me why the mods allow it to continue? Give me one good reason why we should allow it. Seriously, one good reason.

The fact of the matter is that you can't give me a GOOD reason. You can quip about free speech and freedom of opinions all you want, but you can tell when someone is trolling, hell, we all can. There's a difference between FE and OS ranting about Obama and Impulse's baiting about how impressive killing two officers of the law is. That's not even mentioning how he likes to launch personal attacks on people whenever he can. He's a cancer, a pariah, and quite frankly, worse for the reputation of this forum than any other member that is currently active. Yet you mods continually choose to give strikes for lesser offenses, as if somehow trolling is cute to you. It's a load of BS and you know it.

He does deserve it...

On my end, I agree with tallen. All or nothing, as it were. Either start cracking down on the whole "effin', farkin', etc." or don't worry about **edited**. <--- Manually written.

As an aside, where did that <poopy> head Rambino go?

who says he was making a mockery of killing cops. Hell I thought it was pretty impressive that he was able to kill both. I thought atleast one of them would be able to do something about it once the first shot got off. Apparently not. I guess my expectations of cops abilities are a little two high.

There seems to be a major misconception here that the moderators are the ones making all of these rules.