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    Posted: 29 January 2011 at 9:10pm

Mixed feelings. While I am all for artistic interpretation, I guess my stance is that if she wants to sing the song at a school funtion, do it the way they ask. If not, don't do it. I mean if someone decided to gangsta rap the Anthem, should we be required to let them?

 
TL/DR : African American Indiana girl decides to sing her own soulful rendition fo the National Antherm and is told not to.
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Whats up with the African-Americans in the military quote?
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Meh.

Its no worse than some overblown celebrity screwing up the words or putting their own dopey twist on it.

Not long ago, I may have been annoyed at this, but if I'm going to demand that other people 'lighten the hell up' I suppose I ought to do the same- I mean in the end, what exactly does it matter?

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The US Anthem is fairly unique in that it can be sung in a variety of ways and still sound awesome. I don't see how it is an insult to anybody to sing it in a style that feels right to the singer, especially when it's done soulfully. If anything, her way of singing it showed that she was putting passion into the anthem when so many just let it drone on as if they're being forced to sing it.
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:


 
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I laughed, that's all I'm saying.
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I didnt read the link, but it reminds me of Jimi Hendrix's guitar version.
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Which rocked.

Frankly, I think we could do much better with our national anthem, but I'm quite sir that Francis Scott Key is way to dead to care how people sing it.
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My personal beliefs:

The National Anthem exists to honor our country.  Any attempt to add artistic interpretation to the national anthem is an attempt to honor one's self rather than to honor the country.  The national anthem should be performed in accordance with the original musical score.  Any other performance is a selfish attempt to gain recognition for one's personal abilities rather than for our country.  I disagree with any attempt to modify the Nation Anthem from its original form.   

That being said, I read about 5 sentences from that story.  The people saying that this is about race are retarded.  It has nothing to do with race, in my eyes, and everything to do with respecting our country's song. 
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But it is also a 200 year old song. If everyone sang it the same way it would be boring. The whole point of getting someone with skillz to sing it is so they can add their twist to it.

Everyone singing it the same is so large crowds can all be in tune.

Besides, the damn thing only became official in the 1930's. So really? Is it THAT important if it is still done with respect and honour?

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Is it that important that our national anthem be sung with respect and honor?  Yeah, i think it is. 
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

My personal beliefs:

The National Anthem exists to honor our country.  Any attempt to add artistic interpretation to the national anthem is an attempt to honor one's self rather than to honor the country.  The national anthem should be performed in accordance with the original musical score.  Any other performance is a selfish attempt to gain recognition for one's personal abilities rather than for our country.  I disagree with any attempt to modify the Nation Anthem from its original form.   

That being said, I read about 5 sentences from that story.  The people saying that this is about race are retarded.  It has nothing to do with race, in my eyes, and everything to do with respecting our country's song. 

Here's what the original musical score would've sounded like as Mr. Key was preparing the lyrics (it was written without the music in mind).



I guess I'd have to agree with you now. I cannot think of any other way we should sing the anthem but with a beer in hand.


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Why has it become socially acceptable to throw down the race card anytime a black person is not permitted to do something(you know what I mean)? Technically, isn't anyone classifying her rendention as a black version just as guilty of racism?

Edited by oldpbnoob - 30 January 2011 at 9:28am
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Tolgak makes a good point -- he wrote it to the tune of a popular drinking song.
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Why has it become socially acceptable to throw down the race card anytime a black person is not permitted to do something(you know what I mean)? Technically, isn't anyone classifying her rendention as a black version just as guilty of racism?


Because it's unfortunately become one of the easiest way to get what you want in the US these days
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Is it that important that our national anthem be sung with respect and honor?  Yeah, i think it is. 


I see this. I really do.

But I'm of the mind that merely SINGING it is respectful of it and the country. They're not permanently changing it- they're merely exercising the freedoms that are so lauded by the song in the first place.

Setting conditions on freedom of speech or expression at such a low level as "Don't sing the sing differently" seems to go against the grain of the message that the song is trying to get across in the first place.

If the "Official" version was changed, then I can see taking a little bit of offense. It'd be like the push to amend the pledge. If someone doesn't want to say "Under God" when saying the pledge for personal reasons, fine. If the official pledge was amended to remove the line from it, Not so fine.
Its the same thing as singing the song in a different manner. The message is the song and its lyrics. Not the manner in which it's sung.
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

. It'd be like the push to amend the pledge. If someone doesn't want to say "Under God" when saying the pledge for personal reasons, fine. If the official pledge was amended to remove the line from it, Not so fine.
You do realize that "Under God" wasnt in the original version of the pledge right?
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It was added in the '50s, right?  Since of course Communists wouldn't say.
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

 Any attempt to add artistic interpretation to the national anthem is an attempt to honor one's self rather than to honor the country. 

I'd argue that the act of singing a national anthem is, in itself, a self-serving thing. 

There is no mystical American supreme being that accepts the gifts of a properly sung anthem into its ears and blesses the country for it. 

It's an anthem sung so that those performing it, and hearing it, enjoy it. That's pretty much it. 

It's a symbol. And that's not a bad thing. But the way symbols work is based on what is received from the code, not how the code is performed. 
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I think I'm going be counter conservative for a change...I thing that adding a personal twist to the anthem makes it a think of personal pride, which is sadly neglected by modern society.
 
As far as this girl goes, if she was asked to sing a certain way, that has nothing to do with the anthem and everything to do with following directions.
 
Oh, and I know it's been mentioned, but as far as I'm concerned this is the most hair-raising, stirring version ever produced-
 
 
So much feeling and reflection on the event of the time, I can't think of anything more suitable for that generation. Truly amazing.


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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

. It'd be like the push to amend the pledge. If someone doesn't want to say "Under God" when saying the pledge for personal reasons, fine. If the official pledge was amended to remove the line from it, Not so fine.
You do realize that "Under God" wasnt in the original version of the pledge right?


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