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    Posted: 04 October 2004 at 9:49pm
i'm only doing this to express my hate for guns that are used as offencive weapons to harm/kill other human beings. what sparks this is last night on the news i saw a kid accidentally shot another while playing with a loaded gun! and thats 1 like ruined and another lost thanks to guns what do u guys think?
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Well a little off topic but we dont need more gun control we need crime control as for the kid he should be smacked a few times.


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well we need parents 2 be more carful about storing their guns and where they keep the combinations to the safe as this case illistrates
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dont be a tool and hate guns because they hurt people. do you think our fighting men should use crossbows? theyre sure hurting people. many people own handguns for home security, and just becuase some friggin idiot dosent knwo how to safely store a gun, dosent mean everyone else should be punished. before going crazy with gun control, and violating the second amendment how about you teach these random idiots how to handle store a gun so that he dosent shoot his buddy in the forehead
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Guns cause crime

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We need people who know to put a gun where a child cant get to it if your smart something like a safe thats the problem kids get the guns cause the guns are easy to find and most parents would just sit down and tell their kids dont touch it when has telling a kid dont touch it a time or 2 stopped them? explain to them a little more

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Theres an irony that this topic was started by a person named fireufool.
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what's even more ironic is that paintballers face the same trials and tribulations when some idiot shoots up cars or pedestrians with a paintball gun and the liberal media fights to ban the sport because its so dangerous...

more people are injured and killed in car accidents than by legally purchased and owned firearms... but god forbid i took away some soccer mom's bmw....

the legal owner of the firearm should be held personally accountable for the kid's death... i don't care if its his own father... he was not responsibly storing his firearms...

 

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Whats even MORE ironic is i have a sunkist soda.
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/\ the lemonade is the best....

Country Time lemonade is pretty good also.
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Originally posted by rootsradicals rootsradicals wrote:

/\ the lemonade is the best....

Country Time lemonade is pretty good also.


Mmmm, Country time.

The thing is, you dont mix it by the recipie on the box, you gotta add powder till it turns opaqe yellow.  Tastes soooooo good.


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Loaded weapons are the best thing to happen since sliced bread.

Since parents messed up the first time around with birth control, loaded weapons lying around the house gives the parents a second chance to do things right.

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Originally posted by fireufool fireufool wrote:

i'm only doing this to express my hate for guns that are used as offencive weapons to harm/kill other human beings. what sparks this is last night on the news i saw a kid accidentally shot another while playing with a loaded gun! and thats 1 like ruined and another lost thanks to guns what do u guys think?


this wouldn't have been a problem if the gun had a gun lock like is required. It apparently was also stored loaded. Sounds like negligent parents to me.
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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Loaded weapons are the best thing to happen since sliced bread.

Since parents messed up the first time around with birth control, loaded weapons lying around the house gives the parents a second chance to do things right.


Hehe, I think a few guns should get "The Pill" engraved on the side
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Yeah, sure, I'll believe you when I see a gun open a drawer, crawl out, chamber it's own bullet, flip it's own saftey, and shoot at someone.
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Everything I've seen here says "store your gun safely", which I'm guessing means either unloaded, or in a not-easily accessible place.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of buying a gun for home protection? The purpose of the gun is to be there to be used should you ever need it, not get you killed trying to get it out of the safe, get the gun lock off, and get it loaded.

Here's a novel idea: Teach the kid to respect the gun. I've been shooting one thing or another since I was old enough to understand how to fire a gun. I've been taught since longer than I can remember how to handle guns, and when not to(like, whenever I didn't have Dad telling me to when I was young).

Not one of you(that I've seen) has said, "those parents should have taught their kid better than that". Parents can't protect their kids forever(and I hate that, really. Some of you are going to need chaperones loooooong after you've become legal adults), but they can, and should teach their kids how to handle themselves. These parents aren't failures because they didn't "properly store the guns". They are failures because they didn't properly raise their kid.
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Okay junior

This topic pisses me off more than anything.

Accidents happen, sure, but what's needed is more EDUCATION not LEGISLATION.

Who are the kids that get hurt by firearms? Are the they kids who grew up sport shooting and hunting? No. they're usually the kids, who, probably like you, were taught that guns are taboo, and are evil. Then, when they get their hands on one for the first time, they do something stupid. Dazed is absolutely right.

I've been sport shooting for as long as I can remember, and the only accident I ever had was missing my target.

If you want to hate guns because they're dangerous, I want to hear you start complaining about cars too. They're dangerous aren't they? Don't people get killed by cars? Maybe we should all start hating and avoiding them.

Riddle me this batman: There's a baseball bat, a pair of pliers, and a loaded, cocked 9mm on a table.

Which of these three implements sitting on that table can kill someone?

 

 

...Give up? None of them. In order for ANY of them to be fatal, A human being has to pick them up and be put to use.

I PERSONALLY saw an accident once where a kid was gutshot by a loaded .44 

Did I start blaming the gun? Did I start preaching more gun laws and stricter bans? Hell no. I blamed the moron who picked up the gun and pointed it at his friend. I blamed the owner of the gun for not properly storing it, I blamed the father of the kids involved for not properly teaching the little nincompoops the power of what he held in his hands.

Education. Use your God-given brain, and you won't have any problems. 

Have you ever fired a gun in your life? I find that the majority of people who take your side of the fence haven't. Shoot a few hundred rounds then come back and argue from expirience, not just basing an argument on something you saw on the news. There's no denying people get hurt, but if we started rejecting things as a society that hurt people, we'd all be reduced to sitting in loincloths on a rubber mat with out fingers taped together.

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well dazed the problem with storing loaded guns is the bullets/cartages become rusted over a period of time, which means your gun wont fire correctly or reload. it varies from the area your in, some places are more humid than others, which can make the bullet become rusted faster.  I belive that everyone should be able to own a gun, but a 7-14 day waiting period and a back ground check isnt enough. i think everyone who wants to own a gun should have to pass a gun safty class.

yes, parents should tell there little crum snatchers about the dangers of a gun, just like they should tell them not to smoke, the reality is they dont. from the time i was born till the time i turned 14 my parents had never told me anything about guns. my mom signed my brothers, and i in a  gun safty class, which just gives you the basics (where the safty is, parts of a gun, ect.) it helped me understand a lot more about gun safty, the effects of a loaded gun, im kinda glad i took the class now ( i wasnt then) cuz i like to shoot everything my parents will let me.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dazed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2004 at 10:33am
I'm just quoting/answering the parts that concern me, everything else looked good.

Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

well dazed the problem with storing loaded guns is the bullets/cartages become rusted over a period of time, which means your gun wont fire correctly or reload. it varies from the area your in, some places are more humid than others, which can make the bullet become rusted faster....


Irrelevant to the conversation. Hopefully anyone who has a gun knows enough to keep it in working condition. If you don't, you deserve whatever accident you have. Do you know how silly it is to be worried enough about home defense to buy a gun, then not keep it loaded? I'm not talking about every gun in the house. Keep the majority locked up when not it use, or at least seperated from their ammo. But you can't claim to have a gun for self defense if you keep it rendered incapable of self defense.

Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

yes, parents should tell there little crum snatchers about the dangers of a gun, just like they should tell them not to smoke, the reality is they dont.
The reality is that it is still their fault, regardless of the fact that most do not. It is no fault of mine, the government, or the kid that they are crappy parents. That is their fault and they should be the ones to answer for it. You can't deflect the blame just because people are to lazy to raise their kids right on any front. Thats dumber than having a self defense weapon un-loaded and locked away.
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