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    Posted: 01 September 2005 at 5:26pm
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So, you are saying that Americans are NOT morally superior to the Iraqi insurgents?
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are you saying Bush is high and dry while he looks down at the people in New Orleans?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clark Kent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2005 at 5:37pm
You appear to have leap-frogged from "personal survival" to "personal gain"...
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i see your point now, i think.
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3rd debate on the same topic eh?

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If I am reading this right then the criminals are no different than insurgents. And If thats the case I agree 100%
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Again. Lets nuke the South. It will solve all America's problems.

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At a minimum we should send in a couple of divisions of Marines, and order up some air strikes.  The collateral damage should be at an acceptable level, I would think.
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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Again. Lets nuke the South. It will solve all America's problems.


So then southern cali ideals would run the country?
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Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

If I am reading this right then the criminals are no different than insurgents. And If thats the case I agree 100%



Ditto.
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

At a minimum we should send in a couple of divisions of Marines, and order up some air strikes. The collateral damage should be at an acceptable level, I would think.

if Bush approved that, the protests at his ranch would turn into violent riots.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Paint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2005 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

At a minimum we should send in a couple of divisions of Marines, and order up some air strikes. The collateral damage should be at an acceptable level, I would think.

if Bush approved that, the protests at his ranch would turn into violent riots.


You really have to try and understand sarcasm a little better.
 



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The purpose of our life is to live. Therefor we must do what we can to survive. And quit with the anti bush anti war remarks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mbro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2005 at 10:47pm
I learned to not click on your stupid posts because you make the dumbest arguments ever.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

I learned to not click on your stupid posts because you make the dumbest arguments ever.

Hey, nice marmot!
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

You appear to have leap-frogged from "personal survival" to "personal gain"...


I dont see how shooting a cop in the head because someone was about to get caught looting can be considered "personal survival".
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way to skew things out of proportion OS as usual.

Iraqi insurgents are organized somewhat. A majority are suicide bombing for their religious warlords.

However, people in New Orleans, having been deprived of food and water for several days now, are starting to go out of their minds.

Of course this is not all cases. We don;t know what those people were thinking this morning firing at helicoptors. They may have thought they were just getting the choppers attention to get rescued next.

So don't start jumping to label people until you have the full story.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clark Kent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2005 at 11:05pm

Gatyr -

I was referring to this transition:

Originally posted by OS OS wrote:

we see that man will resort to whatever means to ensure his personal survival and power at the expense of another

to

Originally posted by OS OS wrote:

an american "criminal" is no differant than an Iraqi "insurgent" in his use of terror as a weapon for his personal gain

In his first post, OS appears to be focusing, at least in part, on survival, which generally considered a reasonable excuse for questionable behavior.  In the next post, the "survival" is gone, and it is now all about selfish criminal behavior, which is not reasonable at all.

Whatever analogy OS was trying to make (which isn't quite clear), it is muddied by the inconsistent standards applied.  I am not entirely certain what point OS was trying to make in this thread, and I am further confused by this apparent shift in logic.



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