VF, six shooter cyclone

just a crazy idea that would however be 100% functional and would allow the A-5 to utilize awesome hoppers like most guns..

imagine instead of the side feeding cyclone, the cyclone was relocted and flipped forwards behind the barrel and chamber kinda of like a 6-shooter pistol. the cyclones chamber would be closed off all around and on top would be a normal vertical feed for a hopper.

the hopper would drop the balls down to say the right side of the cyclone, which would rotate clockwise with each shot par usual. the top of the cyclone however would be inline with the chamber and barrel so when the trigger is fully depressed, the gun fires the round from the slot and when the trigger comes back up the next ball is already loaded and ready for the trigger to come down again.

i really want to draw up a diagram of this so some of you that may not quite be able to picture it can understand.

the positives of this over a typical Vertical feed are

1. the ball is only gravity fed into the cyclone, not into the chamber so it can't get chopped because the cyclone would mechanically feed it into the chamber ENTIRELY before any gas is expelled causing the round to fire.

2. by eliminating the possibility of gravity lag (time it takes for a ball to fall from a hopper feed into the chamber) and eliminating the chance of misfire (if the balls in the hopper are positioned in a manner in which one ball obstructs another from falling thru cleanly) this system creates a perfect firin cycle.

i will try to come up with a diagram. also, please give me your thoughts. i'd love to answer all inquiries.

Love The Diagrams !!!! I think you have a great idea.

well on August 2nd 2004, Rich Anderson of Cold lake, alberta canada came up with the idea for the 6-shooter VF cyclone on tippmann.com.

i wish i knew how to get a patent or something. i want to as i said get a professional design done. maybe if someone with skills, or a company like tippmann teamed up with me an actual prototype could be made.

there's that thing on the side of the cyclone that manually turns it, you can press that down.. i believe 5 times in this scenario off of a fresh load and you'll be all set. it's just 5 pushes instead of one. there's other ways but this is the simplest.

and as far as unloading balls in the cyclone. why not just have a part on the back of the cyclone, say on the left side where it's exposed, snap up and down so when you're ready to unload you just open it, use the manual revolver button thingy and take them out one at a time. keep in mind this cyclone uses a single arm rather than the multiple arms found in the cyclones on A-5's, so it'd be a quick process.

perhaps you don't fully see the picture here. the gravity feed is not to the chamber, but only to the cyclone. the cyclone then feeds to where the ball is chambered and fired.

by loading it this way instead of by gravity it removes many problems as stated above.

using a gravity feeder to load the six shooter is more effective than a gravity loader feeding a chamber persay. there's not near as many variables that can make it go wrong. and with a good electric hopper going it would be super efficient.

so for the most part, you're wrong. because the cyclone feeding to the chamber will eliminate a ton of gravity feeding problems, and with a VF going to the cyclone players can actually use great VF loaders/hoppers etc.. not to mention the cyclone takes away the bps limit placed by a straight gravity feed.

it's okay, there's a cynic for everything. even cancer research.

as i mentioned in the first post, incorporating an eye would be most excellent.

hit me up on MSN or just mail to OneDown_4Up@hotmail.com.

the point isn't to improve the cyclone feed, but to combine it's usefulness with the best tech for vertical feed guns while eliminating the few problems you may run into here and there.

just a random thing to add onto this for fun, don't elaborate on it.. i realized with my system, it would be possible to utilize 2 chambers and 2 barrels (double shot for each click) with a modification of the cyclones rotation and of course the addition of a new line chamber and barrel adaptor. the barrels wouldn't be completely in line but would be paralell horizontally. nothing like imagining a double barreled shotty of a PB gun.

faster, maybe. more efficiently, yes.