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Smitty 
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 Topic: What is better?Posted: 10 November 2004 at 4:18pm |
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What one should i get. also tell me why. i play woodsball and have a 98c.
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The Man
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 4:23pm |
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Get a uni.
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 4:41pm |
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Its all up to you ... I like Drop forward
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warbeak2099
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 4:46pm |
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Ok Peter calm down don't yell this time...
Ok look, both of those upgrades are comfort accesories correct? Yes that's correct. They affect the balance of the marker/setup. We cannot tell you which will feel more comfortable to you. In essence that's all those upgrades are for, comfort. You need to try them out. Try out a couple different size drops, a remote or two, and maybe try a unimount or rail setup. But do not ask on here or any website what we think you should get. It doesn't matter what we think is more comfortable. It matters what you think! You want to play your best? Get equipment that feels right to you. Sorry for any anger in that post. People are always hung up on what other people online think is best. It's ludicrous. |
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 5:26pm |
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the remote line also acts as an expansion chamber, if you needed a deciding point
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warbeak2099
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 6:31pm |
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Yes, but if he doesn't like how the balance of the setup feels with a remote then that point is moot. What he's looking for is which choice will yeild the most comfort.
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 7:34pm |
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i say drop, b/c i had a remote before the drop, and it gets in the way and the tank in the harness hurt your back while running
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 7:57pm |
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Smitty, I thought you gave up woodsball and became a speedballer? Well anyway, get the uni-mount as suggested earlier, unless you want all that woodsball gear that most woodsball players carry on their marker and on themselves or like what I have. Edited by evil_fingers |
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 8:42pm |
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remote line its much more useful in woodsball it keeps the co2 tank out of the way makin the gun easier to use because its more manuverable
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Posted: 10 November 2004 at 8:52pm |
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 12:04am |
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The drop forward increases the height of your gun. Generally, woodsball players want longer guns with shorter profiles (height). Reason: woods players want long guns to stick through brush, trees, tall grass, etc. They aslo want lower profiles to better hide behind smaller objects such as logs and short bushes. Speedballers play on courses that were man-made, and usually have bunkers that accomodate the longer height. Speedballers generally want to lower their upper profile, and the lower profile isn't too terribly important.
However, I do suggest using some sort of stock with the remote line. By using a remote, you lose a point on which to brace against recoil and movement (steadiness of your hand). A drop provides vertical steadiness and decent recoil absorption, but moves the absorption down into your ribs where its not as steady for aiming, or pushes your gun up high if used on the shoulder. A stock gives vertical bracing, lateral bracing (side to side), and a good comfortable recoil position. It also lowers the profile of your gun by moving the stock tank location brace point upward, also helping you hold the gun much more level. The drawback is that the stock sights become hard to use. I personally don't use the sights, but instead I "snap shoot." I have naturally learned about where the gun will shoot, and I can adjust my aim for long shots that are affected by the wind. I am also able to increase my effective range, mainly because my gun stays aimed exactly where it was on the first shot thanks to the stock. I've actually used the wind to take my shots and curve them back towards me and to the right to hit someone on the top of the head twice, while painting the top of the bunker his head was partially sticking out of. |
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E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 1:39am |
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A stock is not really needed when using a remote line in the woods and thats only if one wants his/her marker to be a milsim M4, MP5, etc., all a person would need is strong arms and shoulders to handle the recoil of a marker which isnt much and its more like a nudge than a kick when fired (remember we have paintball markers not real firearms), but if you do decide on gettin a stock I would suggest a gas-thru stock, theyre easier to install, theres no need to take the marker apart, jus simply remove the asa from the bottom put the gas-thru inbetween the asa and the bottom of the grip and then bolt them all together and yer done and yeah wit the remote line the marker becomes alot lighter and can help make a person run a lil faster compared wit a tank attached to the asa...infact I saw a pic in either in PB2X or FaceFull a few months back, it showed a player in a speedball match, he dove behind a bunker to avoid gettin hit (of course) and when he landed, the tank and the asa snapped off from where it was bolted to the bottom of the pistol grip (not a very pretty sight), when I saw that pic, I said to myself "whoa, its a good thing I use a remote line, thats something I dont want to get myself into" and the samething can happen in woodsball and Im pretty sure that someone has done it, but doesnt want to really mention it jus to save face (I dont blame him). And smitty if you do decide on gettin a remote line, I suggest you get a tank pouch from Ronin Gear inwhich it can be strapped to yer leg (left or right thigh like a tactical gun holster) and yer pant belt and its alot better than having a harness wit a tank thats mounted in the middle inbetween the pods, also wit the pouch, you wouldnt need to reach back to turn the on & off valve on the tank, you can simply reach down to turn the valve on the tank wit no problems at all... Heres an example...look at my sig smitty, I use that Ronin Gear pouch (upgrading the pouch soon to fit any size HPA tank from cops911.com fer $20) and wit the pouch its actually alot more comfortable and safer on my leg than on my lower back. |
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 2:06am |
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Personaly i prefer a remote after 26 hours of play your arm will thank you. speed ball is more about a short burst of energy so the added waight if a tank realy isent that much of a problem. also speedball players tend to get into some prity strange positions and a tank would realy mess up your back if you fell on it. however us senario and woods ball guys we play for longer periods, and genorealy have a moment to get into a good comfertable position. so the added waight on our arms is a real problem, but the tank on our back realy dosent bother us. thats why you never see a sling on a speed ball gun but you see them all the time in senario and woods ball. as for the stock if you play speed ball i realy dont recomend it. but we woodsballers usualy take longer shots and use accuracy over volume at distance. if you play in the woods and you are a longballer or have any hunting experiance you will feel more at home with a stock. a good stock like the car 6 position, that way you can change the length as the situation changes. for instance if you are in a binch of buildings the shortest position is best but if you going for that realy long ahot and done want to take more than 3 shots the longest comfertable position is best. well thats all my opinion but if you do get a remote get a good stiff coiled remote. they tend not to get tankled in its self and they hug your body better than the steel braided. |
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Smitty
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 7:24pm |
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can i get a link to one of those pouches you were talking about evil_fingers? thanks. it sounds like a good idea. i think i'll go with the remote. also how much is this thing you're talking about? it sounds like itd be neat, but wouldnt it be hard to use if you ever slide or something? thanks for the help guys.
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 7:40pm |
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 7:50pm |
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Posted: 11 November 2004 at 10:06pm |
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I would say drop.... I hate having stuff on my back, but the remoteline might help keep liquid co2 from entering your gun
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Posted: 12 November 2004 at 5:16pm |
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bump.....i need that link.
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