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    Posted: 16 November 2004 at 11:17pm

well after getting into an agrument with some 12 year olds in the marker gallery some guy asked me to "prove" him wrong

i was doing some physics home work and i did

i proved that the fastest you can shoot on a gravity feed hopper (revvy/egg) is 7 bps.

and im going to hook up a newton scale to a rip drive and find out the force they aply to the paint and use physics to see actully how fast they can go.

if you wanna see the argument is in the gallery under the title g7 on page 4.
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uhh.. fastest you can go with gravity feed is 13bps, might wanna check your math.
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Originally posted by adrenalinejunky adrenalinejunky wrote:

uhh.. fastest you can go with gravity feed is 13bps, might wanna check your math.

might wanna not qestion me
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well lets see, gravity is 9.81m/s2

if a paintball is .688 inches that means its 17.47 mm or 0.01747meters

Vf2'=Vi2'+2at

so for a pb gun to shoot 30 bps the balls would have to drop at .5m/s

.52'=0+2x9.81xT

.52'=19.62 x T

.52'/19.62=T

0.15=T

so it would take 1.05 seconds to fire 7 paintballs or 7bps.

and i didnt calculater dwell or blowback with would make this even less.
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check your math. i held 11 bps over a radarchron with my classic RT mag and revvy.

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2' means squared. im to lazy to make it small.

im just trying to say that 7 bps in much, MUCH faster then  you ppl think it is.
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I can pull wayyyyy faster than 7bps on my Viking with Revvy.

Try again.

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i love how you guys arnt even trying to prove me wrong.
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ew, your one of those 123244= X guys.... X= 909809123 is way better...
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ew, your one of those 123244= X guys.... X= 909809123 is way better...

that sounds a little red necky to me???
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heh, i'm sorry, but people far better at this physics thing than you have calculated it to 13, and thats been proven empyricaly.

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Originally posted by adrenalinejunky adrenalinejunky wrote:

heh, i'm sorry, but people far better at this physics thing than you have calculated it to 13, and thats been proven empyricaly.

i could see it being done. because when i calculated Vf or final velocity i used an equation with 30 bps as my constant. if i was to use a smaller number i bet i could get Vf to equal higher witch would result in a higher total bps, BUT my point is still proven that gravity feed is from 7-13 bps
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hm... another forumer to add to the procarbinefreak has no respect for you because you are a douche list.

 

bwwaaahahahhaha... i just read your last post... your point of gravity feed being 7-13... your point was it was 7.  pwned....



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Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

BUT my point is still proven that gravity feed is from 7-13 bps



Nice job trying to get out of that one.

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Originally posted by Solipsism Solipsism wrote:

Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

BUT my point is still proven that gravity feed is from 7-13 bps



Nice job trying to get out of that one.

HAHAHA, ya i noticed that i could change my math around and get a higher bps, but dosnt it get you mad when ppl say there egg can shoot 20 bps??
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thats not what you were saying at all... you said you proved it was 7bps....

ok, here goes...

s=ViT - 1/2AT^2

s= .01748
Vi = 0 so the first figure drops out.
A= 9.81

.5 * 9.81 * T^2 = .01748
.01748/4.905= t^2
T=.06

the time it takes to bolt to cycle makes up for the difference in 13 * .06 and 1 second. i just don't want to figure it out.
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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

hm... another forumer to add to the procarbinefreak has no respect for you because you are a douche list.

 

bwwaaahahahhaha... i just read your last post... your point of gravity feed being 7-13... your point was it was 7.  pwned....

Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

2' means squared. im to lazy to make it small.

im just trying to say that 7 bps in much, MUCH faster then  you ppl think it is.

actully that was my point

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Originally posted by Solipsism Solipsism wrote:

Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

BUT my point is still proven that gravity feed is from 7-13 bps


Nice job trying to get out of that one.


HAHAHA, ya i noticed that i could change my math around and get a higher bps, but dosnt it get you mad when ppl say there egg can shoot 20 bps??



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ok fine, you want me to mess with your math???


You mentioned in your introduction that .688 is equal to 17.47 mm, Yet afetr looking through your math I see that the number is never mentioned throughout the entire equation.

I've never known how to measure or been THAT good at math. It might help people if you actually explained your equations rather than throwing a bunch of number up and announcing that you are smarter than everyone because we can't prove you are wrong.


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heh. that wasn't what you said in the first post...

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