homemade auto mod-A-5-update

DrexelSkaPB wrote: I thought the highest feasible cyclic rate for an a-5 was somewhere around 15... doesn't that mean the bolt can't possibly move faster than this? Because an MP-5 has a cyclic rate of like 900 RPM, but even if you had a 900 round magazine, it couldn't possibly get this fast. I always saw the cyclic rate as the amount of time it takes for the bolt to move and return to it's original position and recock, i.e.- an a-5 can do this in one-fifteenth of a second. Oh, well I might be wrong and wrote all this for nothing. Oh, and 60,80,90 rounds a second - isn't that about the RPS of a minigun?

haha a minispeed would be sweet-but miniguns top out at 6000, this would only get 3600...

my guess is the cyclic rate for an A-5 is listed as 15bps cause the cyclone doesnt feed to well at higher speeds-although some say 20-25 works fine

thanks to everyone who responded-if you wanna try it for yourself-let me know cause its a simply trick

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all these people are telling me it aint possible-finally someone who has facts and has actually tried it

if you dont believe me-then dont believe me-i cant prove it-so if anyone out there doesnt believe me, pick a diffent post; im obviously a complete waste of your precious time

DrexelSkaPB wrote:   Oh, and 60,80,90 rounds a second - isn't that about the RPS of a minigun?

a minigun can shoot like what is it i cant remember but its in like the high hundreds of rounds per second maybe even 1000 rps

A vulcan cannon- the 20mm motoized gatling gun- will fire a hundred shtos a second. That is the fastest firearm in the world, and is used in the Close In Weapons System (R2D2 dome) on naval vessels to shoot down missiles and close in aircraft. The 'minigun' is a 7.62mm version of the vulcan cannon, will shoot, as I recall, about 70-80 shots a second.

Klaus, the Cyclone can only feed 15-20bps before it turns into a paint blender. A Q-loader can reliably feed 30 a second- IF you can get the marker to cycle that slowly.

Realistically, full auto is not going to be particularly useful abot 15bps or so. An M16 rifle or an M249 SAW light machinegun fire 10-12 shots a second fully auto. Some SMGs and machine pistols fire up to 15 or so. They don't go any faster becuase realistically it's jsut a waste.

At 280fps, shooting 15 a second, every six hundredths fo a second, tehre's a ballpassing a point in the air. Noone can dodge through a steam of fire like that. The only time you'll need a fully auto paintball amrker would be in close in stuff in recball- since FA isn't allowed in speedball. For clearing a room or soemthing, going full on your tippy would be nice, but an insane rate of fire is just stupid.

I've worked on this problem myself, and the only way to get this really working is to retard the cyclic rate to 15bps without the sear- but going that slowly, it wont's necessarily trigger the valve enough.

I expect that you will not find a way to make a Tippmann cycle that slowly without engaging the sear. The reason the ebolt works is because it releases the sear 15 times a second. With the mechanics of the Tippmanns, you will not be able ot get an effective and efficient full auto system without an electronic trigger system...