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It is amazing that using fire actually caught on. Of course back then I am guessing if you didnt like the change, you were burned.

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You lost me after the word sociology...
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Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

A lot of, if not most, black people just have this victim complex in which nothing is their fault and everyone owes them everything.  

Certainly true of many black folk, but I think you will find that this complex is hardly the sole domain of black people...   We are seeing some examples....

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I am with Zesty and Diabeu (SP?) on this.
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A lot of, if not most, black people just have this victim complex in which nothing is their fault and everyone owes them everything. You just witnessed a prime example of it. 

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Originally posted by PAINTBALL1 PAINTBALL1 wrote:

I hate reverse racism

Now why do you think it is called "reverse racism"?  How is different from just plain old racism?

Quote ...and have missed an oppurtunity at a job to someone of another race who was unqualified and the manager knew it and so did everyone else.

How can you be so sure...?

 

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Things are kind of crazy in public schools now with the whole race thing. Theres alot of blacks in my school and alot of rednecks and then everyone else. IT happens alot when the whites state their opinion in a respectful manner and the black kids freak out. I was actually congradualated by about 10 kids for saying what i did, because no one else wanted to say it but they all knew it was true. The race card is played back and forth and is never fair but when is life fair? Its only gonna get worst before it gets better and with all the white kids goin black the next generation wont have a problem with racism. I hate reverse racism and have missed an oppurtunity at a job to someone of another race who was unqualified and the manager knew it and so did everyone else. But thats life, theres not to much to do except state your opinion and deal with it. Theres no way for everything to be equal, maybe there is but it wont happen. Theres always gonna be racism, and reverse racism but now in my opinion i see reverse racism as more of a problem or more frequently then i do straight up racism, but whites cant do anything except spend their time in court or eat the crap we are given. I can tell theres gonna be alot more interestin discussions in sociology as we talk about how people act, and im sure ill have alot to post about.
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Originally posted by Zesty Zesty wrote:

It seems like you would rather discount me than try and listen to anything I have to say.

Well, so far you have mostly ranted, as best I can tell.  Not much to listen to or discount, really.  I will happily carefully address a specific point.

Quote Why is it not possible that I am the victim? Because that's the way you make it sound.

You might be a victim - but you haven't mentioned being a victim so far (unless I missed it), only ranted.

Quote Why is it not okay for me to voice my opinion as a white man?

Of course it is ok.  Your opinion may or may not be ok, but the voicing thereof is (almost) always ok.

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It was just kind of a joke, but you do remind me of most of those types of people.

It seems like you would rather discount me than try and listen to anything I have to say.

Why is it not possible that I am the victim? Because that's the way you make it sound.

Why is it not okay for me to voice my opinion as a white man?
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Originally posted by Zesty Zesty wrote:

^You sound like a white dude who isn't proud of who he is....

Why do you say that?

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^You sound like a white dude who isn't proud of who he is....that's a shame.

Why is it considered "pride" and something to admire in a minority, but seen as something bad when it comes from a white man's mouth?

Does my skin have to be dark for me to be taken seriously nowadays?

That's how I feel.
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Like I said...
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To summarize, PAINTBALL1, you were absolutely right in your comment...it was neither racist nor hurtful. Just your opinion as a person who livs in this country, and you have as much right to that opinion as any black or otherwise.

Simply, it sounds like the loud black girl in your class is the perfect product of our public school system.

She gets to feel all confident about herself because she is a strong/black woman, but you'd better just **edited** because you're the white devil.

The fact is, this country is now racist against white people.
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From my point of view, this is a big problem in most of society. We try so hard as a general public not to offend any poor, abused minority. But people have no problem dragging old whitey through the mud!

After all, we brought over the slaves, took the Native Americans land, and have since then held down every minority so that we can have total white power....or at least that's how most close-minded lemmings think about it!

The school system is whacked...you get to be proud to be Mexican/Hispanic, Black, Asian, Indian...basically anything OTHER than Caucasian!

Yes, that's right, White kids are taught to be ashamed of who they are and have no pride in their race, while it's just peachy if a black dude wants to say you're a honky racist mo'fo and fly a black panther flag. Hypocricy? Of course, this is America.

Quite simply, in this country, a black dude can make a television show dissing whites and every other race, but if a white dude was the host of the TV show, there would be an uproar that he is dissing all these other races.

Why is it okay for a black or mexican dude to state their opinion, but when a white dude does it he's a racist?

Personally, I don't care. I grew up in a 99% mexican community, and I don't give a crap who thinks I'm a racist. I know there are genuine'y good people from all walks of life, and I know each race also has their set of scum that represent them.

IMHO, we are far enough removed from the days of inequality that we all need to just **edited** about all this racism garbage...if anything, the white man is getting the short end of the stick because we have gone too far to try and kiss minorities butts.

I'm no racist, I just actually want things to be fair.

Giving a less qualified person a job just because of their race is just as racist as not letting a black man eat at a diner....if you are more qualified than the next guy, you should get the job. It shouldn't mater that you are whiteand he is black. If you can help that company more than he could, he shouldn't get the job.

But in this country it's not fair unless the poor, innocent minorities get their handouts...which to me is not fair.
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Oh my god, thats disgusting, talk to the principle or something.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Me neither, its just convenient for her to play the race card. Its so easy, to blame others, "Oh that teacher failed me because im black" Or because im a girl, or whatever other reason, i hear it all to often.

one of the teachers at my school is a white power activist. i have proof, she dropped a flyer and picked it up mad quick but i saw "kkk" on it and a pic of sum black dude hangin from a tree i wished i could punch her in the face but id get expelled and my parents would eat me with a fork
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^^^^   Agree with that.
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Hm, im startin to think people just read too much into the whole race thing. I mean goodness how many times can a person spout. "He faahrd me cuz im a hillbilly, dag nabbit!" Or "He just be racist against mah people!" People cant admit, you failed the test because you are a moron and didnt study. Or I fired you because you never came to work on saturday because you were hungover from friday night.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

No one said that. Life is tough for everyone at some point or another.

A-5 did, just about.  But I'm predicting more.

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No one is acting like a victim.
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